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Fact -- segment tonight murder in Chicago as you may have heard fifteen year old idea penalty shot to death last week while standing in -- park near her school.
She's not a student completely innocent of any wrongdoing just gunned down.
Saturday was a demonstration against gun violence Chicago but few attended despite the fact that over the past two years not counting the first month -- this year.
More than 800 people have been murdered by gunfire in the windy city.
Joining us now from Chicago Norman livings incur community activists and Matt McGill.
Radio talk show host on WB Ole miss -- William Williams surprised more people didn't come out -- -- watch.
You know what -- and they didn't surprise me that much bill number one weather was bad extremely -- There were other rallies going on around town.
There was a meeting of big emotional meeting go on on that morning regarding conceal and carry which Illinois only state in the nation.
That doesn't have a concealing carry law.
So -- that there were other things people to do in the bad weather played into it as well but it was important to do -- because what reverend Jackson was trying to do.
Is -- the media out there once you get the media out there than politicians are paying attention as -- many.
No -- are we understand that -- gun violence is driven by drug gangs primarily.
That there was a central drug distributor -- what one time in Chicago that Conrad.
-- away and now it's a budget drug gangs fighting for turf.
-- out what's really happening there.
Well you definitely have smaller.
-- they called them you don't have the -- gang structures you used to.
So does a lot more fighting among smaller groups -- mean even the larger games are broken down through groups that are infighting at this point so.
There's a lot of competition for different resources and all of the conflicts are really.
Interpersonal conflicts -- they're not necessarily about drugs but just about you know simple disrespect Aaron.
We have access to guns so that escalates.
I would you have very tough love gun laws mr.
-- and it doesn't seem to inhibit these gangsters from getting any firearm they want -- -- him with impunity.
Here you know bill one of the problems is that you know for years I followed the daily administration.
Allowed for crime to happen in the African American community.
And criminals got comfortable with that as long as it didn't go downtown as long as didn't.
Bleed over into the north side of Chicago Chicago was high heels a tale of two cities he went to the south -- west sides of Chicago.
You have high crime he had high murder rates.
And as mr.
Curtis is not necessarily gang related you know some of those in a personal disputes but the criminals are in a comfort zone.
Carrying weapons around we -- we need to change that.
Mary manual that is walked into this situation that you know twenty years before he had gotten here.
You know has been going on now he's got to try to figure -- to weigh the evidence is no doubt it's where it.
It's -- -- it's in his a couple of reasons why toward them one you don't have stop and -- in Chicago which got a boyfriend drove around everything at all.
Gun crime in New York City where the police they see somebody suspicious they stopped in the first human in finding dots I mean it's challenge -- by the ACLU but that's an effective crime fighting tool.
And you don't flood is on this occur your community activists are a mystery.
You don't see big squadrons of of Chicago cops coming down to your neighborhood to basically be a presence on the street.
So manuals on Jackie's not done anything he's a big mouth but he doesn't do -- thing and that's the fact that I am I wrong.
Well if you look over the last twenty years as far as homicides in Chicago there's been significant increases remain in the early ninety's were talking.
Close 1000 homicides -- here.
And and there are more more recent years we've been in the low four hundreds -- -- -- -- -- we have an uptick.
But we've seen significant reduction in spin on the -- Compared to every other city like new York and Washington in the homicide rate is much higher.
Where the population is much lower in Chicago than it is here in New York City did you know mister -- that more.
Shooting deaths occurred in Chicago -- among coalition forces in Afghanistan in 2012 did you know -- I am aware of that I mean and that's a disgrace.
That's just a disgrace.
It is it is -- -- with -- and there's a lot of things that contributes about I mean you talk about you know gun laws in Chicago mean.
There are gun laws but bulbs on the suburbs.
And every -- -- don't have the same gun law.
-- the thugs here in New -- -- got -- Virginian get the guns and and -- -- c'mon back every -- he's got that problem which Congo -- not come to grips with it.
Because they won't take the tough measures to control it as mr.
McGill said certain neighborhoods.
Right MI -- MI right if you flood the zone in the south -- Chicago were all of these murders most of them are taking place with cops -- the -- all over the place.
You're gonna cut it now.
Yeah definitely -- I -- and I'll give you less -- -- Got bill I think you will cut it down is no question about that.
I'm -- stop and -- I think we need to interrupt your comfort zone the criminals are and I think you you will see more cops on the street the mayor last week announced that it wouldn't.
More cops on the street but at the same time.
You know we've got to correct was going on in the African American community we've got a breakdown of the family unit we're not parenting our kids right and they don't have conflict resolution skills.
And when you bring all of that together plus.
What crack has done to this -- we're starting to see the results of crack babies in Chicago without having conflict resolution skills.
This is kind of brought this perfect storm together and why we see the type -- crimes that we see as -- country.
-- less -- twenty seconds ago.
Last -- we need more positive role models and we're gonna support our kids we need to address the mental health issue we have several young people -- you know.
Guys who are at risk -- high risk travel issues of trauma that haven't been addressed and until we face a couple more funding in -- health.
We're gonna see this continued all right thanks -- and we appreciate it.
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