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Angela McGlowan, Bob Rice, and Mark Hannah debate whether immigration reform can be achieved by Congress
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Ought to be able to be legal they want to be able to work they want to be able to travel they want to be able to feel like they're being treated with dignity.
Not very many people told me I want to be a citizen I have to be a citizen.
That's not the solution -- in the nation's best interest if we don't go down that route but I'm convinced that were more likely to find ourselves here again -- ten years fifteen years twenty years.
That was met -- and Castro of course of that San Antonio Texas.
-- -- -- is that right.
San Antonio Texas -- and congressman island Labrador from Idaho.
Discussing immigration reform -- this looks like one issue where we aren't going to move forward.
-- and despite.
Those that those are fairly polite disagreements we have on this but that Republicans seem to have realized.
That they have absolutely no choice but to do something here.
And that's a big window for President Obama yes -- Absolutely I mean there is a little bit of coffee smelling going on here and among right among Republican I mean.
That we talk about this -- endlessly on the edge of the demographic shifts are real there is nothing you can do about them you can't talk your way out up and you can't argue what.
They are real so.
I'm sure you stepped into his rhythm.
With what's really going on and and the general population or you will cease to exist as a national party.
I mean that's the simple fact of the matter is no other way to look at sharks had -- -- compassionate conservative number one.
It's a little late but has Republican -- looked at this issue a long time ago so I -- Johnny come lately because we lost that election.
Decimal -- number two I believe we should do something.
I got the undocumented worker this year because these folks live in the shadows so fiscal after the businesses that hired them less have never sponsor.
These people so they can become citizens and the right way I do not believe that people she jump in front of the line you've had several people.
Here they become citizens the right way without break in the locker what about some spots that.
-- -- -- By the way -- the -- worldwide.
Yeah I think it ever we are only children and -- Manila -- have a bodyguard every immigrant right where I was I became a citizen you did you have you.
You where did you come so there you go Wednesday come from well if you say Canada or does -- -- back.
I've got -- -- -- -- All the onus on a serious about it what one of -- one of the issues raised by Republicans particularly those in the in the border states is that you cannot do this.
Without first.
-- -- is they put it.
The bull that now the securing the border is a completely.
-- definable term as far as I can tell what does it mean.
Ten people come across every week a hundred people come and -- -- But having said that as President Obama need to do mall -- back securing the border.
I think President Obama has done a tremendous amount to secure the border there are fewer and fewer people crossing the border every year.
And net immigration in this past year was -- zero there're more people leaving United States back to Mexico -- there are coming from Mexico so.
You know we can building great wall -- China we could build you know -- we can spend a ton of taxpayer dollars.
Building a fence -- doing something like that and it's not going to be very effective but.
In order to achieve a comprehensive immigration reform there has been -- concessions by Democrats that yes we're going to absolutely.
You know doing do border enforcement do do.
All sorts of barriers to entry and and things of that nature in order to get.
You know they're not there we're not calling it amnesty I think we need to normalize and and take the people that are already here the twelve million men women and children that are living in the shadows.
And give them -- and have integrity today to the system where our you know busting our tables and mowing your -- Balled up politically you know the pain and could lead to declined an Obama himself has done anything to secure the borders is ludicrous the recent immigration is standard because our economy is down in the -- and the Mexican economy is -- part of -- -- let's say that he marginal bit overwhelming part of it it's on the part of it that's the main reason it's happening President Obama had deported.
More undocumented and -- more people I'm actually had a million dollars and that's had nothing to do that this numbers are trivial in comparison to the immigration wave the -- immigration weight is down is because of economics but it's also why we need these people.
-- as we need people to pay taxes.
We need them to be on the books and we need them that this the only reason we have politics between me and the only relying on Santa's gonna finish this -- -- the only reason that we have positive population growth in the united time America is because of immigration and and you don't have positive population growth.
You see -- decay in the core economies like you're seeing in Western Europe.
This country has always thrived on great well occasionally people humanity period.
They had what we don't need a -- of my heritage is native American so we were already gives us some of the -- immigrate here but what we don't need is people on the -- adult if we're going to have -- here.
We need to have them legitimately.
-- took -- eight cents -- yes it's a right not.
I'd I'd just I would love to get agreement among Bob and Angela and I don't think I'm gonna do it fits that I mean citizenship.
Is really the only way we're gonna have -- -- -- comprehensive immigration reform if if Republicans start walking this back that's a massive bait and switch on their part and I don't think they're gonna.
Realize -- -- -- -- immigration reform without it if we don't have these people.
Sort of paying taxes receiving the benefits that American citizens -- the ability to -- I think a lot of this let me finish real quick Angela yes a lot of this is politically motivated on the part of Republicans because.
They're afraid they're gonna lose votes if we have.
You know a lot of lot of Latinos they're Hispanics that extend voting Democrat but that's not necessary.
It's not the only issue that Latinos.
Care about number one number two were on the same -- That we need to legitimize these people and get a process in place were already have laws on the be given the right to vote.
Yeah I think yeah.
I think we are all on the same area -- -- is very very disappointing -- a very honorable title today.
And I got to thank you -- for being --
