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Brennan under fire for controversial U.S. drone program

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    John Brennan defends drone strike policy at hearing. Julie Roginsky and Jim Pinkerton weigh in.

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Joining us today Juli -- against -- is a former.

Communications director for the former New Jersey governor Jon Corzine she's a Fox News contributor you -- find her on Twitter actually gives you good to see Juli thank you for being here.

And Jim Pinkerton is here as well contributing editor and writer the American conservative magazine also Fox News contributor James.

Received anything and I think how many guys thanks I do regularly from Jonathan thank you on the ball might go I -- actually.

And everybody does it up a bit of arrogance and I think presenting -- are you you guys ready for the storm.

What storm to what he wants to -- and it's comment yeah I keep you know what I keep hearing it a couple of guys yet.

Didn't cause -- some of the hoax and it's a hoax that's an -- -- -- on the moon.

Are busy a couple of days.

Up on Capitol Hill.

There have been some hearing some confirmation hearings for the president's choice to head -- the CIA John Brennan.

Controversial.

Character this.

On the left as well as on the right for his involvement really is the sort of -- the architect of the -- program.

Also some hearings yesterday Leon Panetta -- probably will be his last official appearance.

Testifying on Capitol -- the outgoing defense chief.

Answered questions about the big guys he attacked let's talk.

First about John Brennan how did he added he -- -- -- you.

A huge deficit under fire and definitely had a harder road to hoe but.

In the Washington Post said you know -- pretzels smacking around a bit and the Republicans as well.

You know get confirmed so when that sense.

You know -- -- eventful.

We all these are these hearings -- isn't just sort of like a foregone conclusion.

I mean how how often does a president's nominee for a cabinet position.

You know.

Get rejected by the -- on our Jonathan 18 that was going on out it doesn't happen very often so for all of -- bluster.

You know when we see these senators who are some of whom are brand new senators -- crews trying to sort of make a name for himself.

Biden asking really tough questions.

Is it all really just for show because at the -- These guys these men and women get it through.

He asked sort of for -- cable who knows but hey you know I'm still the jury's out he'd like I think.

You know it does little more comfortable about two weeks go to their postponing it I don't know I don't know what I will say -- -- -- call up my own party businesses.

The hypocrisy in the left -- these outstanding as the Washington Post fighting has a lot of those bullet came -- with that a vast majority of liberals and Democrats approve.

These Jones breaks and you know whether if bush -- -- want to charge these demonstrates that.

My party given -- and we were over by Tonto certainly were over decisions certainly were over.

Tortured.

Waterboarding and now all of a sudden now it's like Obama's doing just fine and I gotta say the pocket sees little standing for and I'll -- those Democrat right.

But at the end of the day I mean this is the president's.

Though the administration says that the president has has found -- the legal.

You know reasoning that that allows him to do this under.

Very limited sort of strict circumstances not like they can decide at some guy in Texas is you know is a problem let's just take him out.

I don't know if you had have lawyers think they'd agree that's that's that's what you hire a lawyer for you get this is phrase using more oil and wash -- -- -- -- lawyer up which is to say you couldn't look I've got.

5000.

-- our attorneys who swear that are preventive right legal and presented -- -- five -- an exact opposite.

And I think Julie hit it the Democrats are content to take the president's report that there would be much more scrutinizing.

The brewers a dime you if you remember him for sure from the -- -- but.

The hearings are serving.

Paper made out of positive purpose but -- a purpose and that is they are extracting things out of -- I mean you know yesterday yesterday's hearings.

Senator Feinstein said now you know you're you're you're you're talking about full disclosure -- to be open and mr.

candor mr.

transparency then how come just this morning.

We have we try to -- these memos and the CIA said no staff.

You know coming from congress is theoretically control only the lawmakers a little longer look at AMR -- about that nothing like I say well yeah basically it's.

What do you do then how how do you deal with these complicated things that -- If the CEO name has point out bureaucrats.

Dreaming up stuff another 101000 winners of the just department preakness and they tell some senator look in between fundraisers in between other committees and in between and whatever else you have going on her life.

You can spend an hour reading through this much documents and then we're not take any notes and remember what you did and and it's.

I mean you can't ultimately you can't make legislation into oversight.

Based on well I remember three days ago -- again especially when they -- well mister senator you were you mr.

Paul.

Be a paragraph formed paragraphs six in the stuff is complicated as all get out and even -- and obviously it's a Smart guy was having a hard time -- what's classified was not classified and it just.

There's no way to function which of course is that -- CIA likes it exactly the -- it is.

He had a Jersey -- -- -- you hear him I thought I guess at what he said look I'm very straightforward and you know some people say that's because of my Jersey roots.

-- -- -- He went all day long because argued on YouTube by transit of property -- -- -- Jersey route.

-- -- Yeah great tradition of detection Jersey emphasis is Pete Williams and -- and yeah yeah.

Carrier hasn't he wouldn't have -- Does Torricelli.

You know good friend Bob Menendez all of them yes.

Nothing but you can't not let alone.

At what politicians people here's your fine political class the messenger yeah.