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Gives me George W.

Bush the power -- pretty much do whatever I want.

So Obama.

Detain people in Guantanamo without charging them I can -- that.

If I wanted to declare an American and enemy combatant and suspend.

Veron.

So celebrities I -- -- that.

That was a candidate Obama back in 2008 during the campaign accusing the bush administration of using extra constitutional means.

Fighting the war on terrorism and now they -- assassinating would be terrorists with drones it's come back with our panel Stephen Hayes it's you know.

He said that he was going to roll pull back the Bush Administration policies.

In fighting the war on terror but in some ways he's using tactics that are even harsher than anything that the Bush Administration.

-- to Q were there is some.

And there's been this sort of rush to conventional wisdom that.

The Obama policy is really just a continuation of George W.

Bush I don't think that's true -- number of ways and I think very significant ways in which.

The Obama administration has change the bush policies and there's no more harsh interrogations that -- sort of under George W.

Bush but now he's ruled that out its army field manual.

You have law enforcement first approach to apprehending terrorists and if you look at what happened in Gaza is we're just talking about.

One of the reasons that we haven't been able I think it did.

To capture more.

Of the bad guys -- the people who were involved is because we're not going to slashing people off the streets -- going to the Tunisian government asking patent and if we might please.

Have some access to these.

Three suspects and thank you have other things like renditions and of course you have this idea that we would send folks to warn it to fight wars I'm on these issues.

So there are some significant.

Differences but there's no question that on certain issues.

There is tremendous hypocrisy based on what the president said when he was campaigning what he -- nearly years under the administration on the on -- -- Stephen of hypocrisy every -- to John you just before the broadcast and I John you of course the architect of many of the abortion terrorism policies -- the Justice Department.

This is what he told -- said quote and I got to cut this development he said it should be clear by now the President Obama and his terrorism advisors are hypocrites.

But I'm glad they are hypocrites because they chose to keep the policies that have kept -- safe for these eleven years.

Instead of sticking to their misguided principles if the Obama folks ever had the good graces to thank President Bush.

I'm sure he would say.

You're welcome -- is is the Obama administration policy really that much different.

Then the Bush Administration policy when you look at it from the standpoint of transparency.

And bringing that power to fight the war inside the balance of the White House.

Well I think one of the issues is that even if you buy into the idea of using these you.

Assassinating an American citizen with -- -- for example which I don't.

But even if you do.

It's Obama promised us transparency promise -- over you know -- oversight check some bounces in or not this not not what George Bush had allegedly given us.

And -- what he.

In that memo it -- it is what it's goes beyond almost the torture -- on a sense of there's there's almost no situation where the president can't.

Kill somebody you know it's not that as a as a legal document.

I think the President Obama either ran for office even if he came to the conclusion when he was in office that -- -- people -- trying kills and we need to do this.

Wouldn't at least tried to do something like a fire as a court some sort of oversight some new release to make -- -- -- some other person.

Or our panel of judges.

And this is so far removed from who he presented himself to be.

That that I think about should be of a -- a -- great concern to people and you know -- hypocrisy is kind of endemic in Washington we have much bigger prop problems going on here -- such as -- due process for.

You know an American who was assassinated.

Through -- general what what what about that the double standard here particularly among.

Democrats.

Who were crying the long and -- up and down Pennsylvania Avenue about warrantless wiretapping rendition enhanced interrogation techniques and -- up until this week.

We're pretty silent on what the White House -- doing in terms of assassinate people by remote control right I mean what the principal people will tell you on the left is either they've been criticizing it all along and are some people on the real left have been doing ACLU actually has been consistent.

But then.

The other argument you get a lot is that somehow.

Waterboarding.

Is worse than killing people.

And that and of all in my brief informal unscientific -- asking people would you rather be water boarded.

Or assassinated so far waterboarding is way ahead -- -- -- part of the problem right.

But it's not just hypocrisy if it's in in substance it's hypocrisy in town.

In the mid two -- this country was a -- from Hollywood from the mainstream media.

What from academia with this fear of existential panic that George Bush was going to -- down their doors.

-- And now everyone's saying well -- we have a clip earlier Mika Brzezinski and shook them.

You know I was troubled by what bush doing and doing some compel the sort of feel picky about what Obama is doing and that's all fine intellectually but emotionally.

There's no comparison when it comes -- hypocrisy that were saying that we're definitely going to hear a lot more about this is that the days Wear on.

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