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Now from his impoverished childhood to use it's being as successful musician Jeremy camps journey.
Reignited his -- inspired some of the most beloved songs and the way for.
A happy marriage Jeremy joins me from Dallas to share his inspiration the inspiration behind his seventh album which just out this week it's called reckless.
Are you doing things for having me it's great you know it's some.
It's first of all your Christian musician so I -- explain the title reckless when he what does that mean.
I love it and -- just.
It's funny because.
You know looking at a dictionary term and basically says.
Utterly unconcerned about the consequences.
Of one's action so of course you think when you think of reckless is not a very positive term.
But -- those kind used to study into the cut.
I don't know kept pressing on my heart.
I sort of thinking about you know when your reckless for Christ.
Because what really what faith is stepping down the faith is saying -- -- trust you.
I'm gonna give you all control no matter what the consequences may be and that's really what -- -- -- faith is because sometimes you.
Go I don't know what's gonna happen but I'm gonna be obedient to a god calls do.
And so you know this whole kind of theme kind of started my own I think god doing heart surgery with me -- We sit there Largo got to surrender you know -- even in churches and these different places -- emotional responses I give you everything.
And then I think guys kind of -- sand.
Are you will you.
And this album kind of burst from that your -- and it was like okay.
There's -- -- -- that you're willing to do so it definitely was kind of a heart surgery for me on this record.
And you've written all the songs on there don't what is what songs are most dear to your heart of what's your favorite.
I would have this wanna say this because of the title -- -- -- -- -- to -- the -- -- -- on there.
Was because I want to be able to explain the whole story behind it -- hands you know I think we live in -- generation.
Where is very media oriented it's very narcissistic you know and you're seeing you know my heart is is breaking.
-- -- focus like me and all this stuff going on these horrible things happening and we're like OK -- What do we do what's what's going on why I think we're losing.
This true understanding of of surrender and I think Paul was an amazing example of this in the Bible.
Because here is a guy who persecuted believers and all said god save them.
And said you know I wanted to go tell my people -- level.
And so I think come hell out of God's love understanding that you had been given the chance to go he's like man we're all right on the go where ever you wanted to go do whatever you wanted to do.
So he was ship -- he was beaten.
He was imprisoned in sing -- songs in prison he was soon enlarged.
Pulled out of the city left for dead and went back into the city increased again -- you -- how can Paul do this you know and being unconcerned about the consequences of his action kind of reckless.
Is and that's when -- -- -- -- -- says this he says listen none of these things move me.
Nor do I count my life here to myself and -- -- his race for the joy.
And the ministry said reformer to testify the gospel -- -- -- god is where I want -- let's start with this is that.
He said I consider my life worth nothing there was a Santa arm worthless you know I have -- worth nothing and then he was saying that.
My life's not my own he was ready to give his life for the -- to fully surrenders we said okay.
They said later I've been crucified with Christ I no longer live but it's Christ who lives in me I am called to lay in my life down as wouldn't sacrifice and he understood that his life wasn't his night.
And I guess my concern you -- your book you've got a book as well it's called I still believe -- it really is a heart wrenching story of Reading the and the opening pages of it.
About your wife -- -- at a very young age.
How hard was -- for you to write.
It was very difficult -- people I did interview sometimes and people are like to tell me your story you know you're right.
Okay when you dig deep you know because it's not easy and so I had to really go to some places were.
I was account I don't wanna go but I knew because I hear story after story I'm telling you you know -- for my wife -- to -- the -- she said this to me.
Here's Jeremy if -- death brings more glory of the lord and that's what I want.
And there's a difference Hussein and that's and that's okay he's -- that's what I want.
I'm Tony this is true is -- truth this is her life she knew that her life was was price.
So I had to really go.
OK lord you're using in this radically to change people's lives because I've been telling the story right and songs like us to believe walk -- -- -- songs that birthed out of that.
And people are saying I wanna hear more about what god did through this because it's not easy and I just how -- you do it I'm like hey.
It wasn't easy you know I have my times -- be an upset my task and an angry but -- -- what god did and how he walked me through it.
And so it was worth it you know it was difficult but it was worth it -- -- use of that.
You have a nonprofit.
Ministry called speak speaking -- ministries of what is that about.
-- we started this because.
You know are you start with three full thing people say you -- -- Smart.
Calling in life you know and never wants another specific call and that's we -- have those guys has some of recent everyone of us.
But he does also say practical things one of the great commissions and going going all the nations of Christian gospel every creature.
You know and it says that -- under -- religion does it take care of the widows and orphans.
And so this whole kind of three -- purpose got a -- in my heart.
To do more evangelistic outreach is where we actually work in the community as well it's not just like hey come -- -- play.
Here -- my share -- -- the gospel and that's that we're only.
It's way more involved than that and my heart is to go and we're going to Kyrgyzstan in Ukraine this.
Summer places that are like hey we want you to come because music bridges the gap between these people they need to hear the gospel.
We would love for you to -- -- -- on the -- workers more images we're gonna play and an outreach and we're also gonna hang out to people not just going to be.
Here's some music I don't give a good time and that's that we want to actually get more involved.
I love you so much and I want you to hear chatter came -- you -- it's obviously working because that.
Sorrow oh 121163 says I love Jeremy camp is music so lifting god -- Jeremy camp.
And so you bless you you're you're imposing a lot of people thank you so much Jeremy camp.
And -- -- into.
It was a thank you very much and there's his album reckless pick it up it's wonderful great we'll get a little sample later in the show thanks so much damage.
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