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Unions fighting possible spending cuts as debt explodes

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    Is Big Labor a big reason we'll never fix our spending problem?

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Through this week Wayne Rogers Jonathan Hoenig Tracy Byrnes and Sandra Smith also joining us this week -- urgency welcome everybody.

OK so as the national that continues to soar unions telling Washington they don't want to tolerate spending cuts.

We will all not the thoughts of the art.

We're going or.

I can't wait.

And want to make it a.

Oh boy Jonathan is big labor a big reason we'll never fix a spending problem.

Well -- and unions destroyed the steel industry the automobile industry this public education and literally another bankrupting government as well and that their only growing in government unions account for about 36%.

Of government workers only about 6%.

In a private workforce -- -- the nerve of Richard Trumka and the union that the unions to demand jobs anywhere the -- -- that you know we have more government workers now that we had citizens of the country's founded.

In 1776.

And so many of them have nothing to do with actually protecting it.

Individual right there educators library workers and researchers they should be -- we need to be -- and music to take a backseat and actually put this country first for -- -- -- -- sequestration threatens some spending you say hey wait a minute now let's not noticing frustration.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- Guess what mr.

trump is -- this is our country god bless us you're asking for more money did you just see the debt clock.

Over sixteen trillion dollars -- This country's in trouble the money is gone there asking for more but guess what they've got a president.

That's willing to give them more he started proposing a 1%.

-- is for all federal workers in 2014 on top -- the one that they're about to get in March.

Send them.

-- is our -- spending cut a union is willing to like.

Well I thought I don't think so I mean let me you've got to do you got to give them credit for what they are -- -- constituency there are only interested in themselves.

Everybody knew who best -- Washington and lawmakers are only adjusted themselves whether it's a union or a corporation or -- another political group.

You can't blame them for that you know.

They're doing what they're supposed to do representing their union members that not representing the country and they're certainly not representing the public.

So the government demands that are outrageous and expect that's the brilliant.

But Donovan was right when he says about -- the -- the increase in in the federal workers who have federal workers under Obama and increase Obama 120000.

That's an enormous number in that period of time so the bureaucracy continues to grow the federal government continues to -- We have big government big corporations big labor and live demanding what they always have demanded I don't I don't expect -- to change Julie what about it it we're broke we can't afford more hiring yet we're hiring more more federal workers.

Well a couple of things one is federal government actually the growth in federal government has increased at the slowest rates under this president and since the Korean War -- -- -- some person or -- got -- -- -- -- -- want to assist -- -- -- -- the unions -- sequestration -- other people -- sequestration -- all the Republicans and armed services committee -- understand that you did this.

You're a plunge the country re back into recession already have.

Military being cut civilians being laid off from the military.

Time and time again we had a brilliant you are right out as a result it's not -- Join -- at juke joint points coming out but we'll -- increase is slowing down but it's still increase.

It's still increasing its still unnecessary.

And it's still selfish it is beyond self is it drives me insane that so many households have got in -- get their act together.

And unions are asking for more -- what do you know what you can't get more and I think the big labor though which really interest me Eric is that members of -- shrinking.

And it's almost like they're getting louder to make up for the fact that they're just not enough representation out there.

Legal listening to these unions using -- the president otherwise ever yeah I just I just -- Called -- -- and enjoy going out -- -- Johnson back in here but -- makes a very good point Jonathan that government is listening to president is listening why would happy.

Well I think the government is the only place unions are thriving -- because they have a monopoly and they had.

Zero accountability unlike the private sector I mean unions destroy wealth they force higher than normal wages they're -- caught costly enterprise to be to go bankrupt.

It's no surprise that all the massive riots you've seen throughout Europe are being held by public sector unions in Antalya the most highly -- unemployed states here in the United States are also the most heavily unionized states like Michigan like Illinois like California so.

-- your point unions have every right to protest but -- don't have the right to use the coercive power of government to protect their jobs which they think are sacrosanct when other people and I doing.

You -- -- love about you guys you'll -- the unions you wanna cut from everywhere as long as it -- Peoria carried interest Safin's longs to keep their attack of the same loopholes that Mitt Romney talked about closing.

Republicans a -- -- clothes anymore what happened why haven't just think once well imagine that any banking and they had my back that I.

I'll let you know our kids Jolie it's February now on until the election was that last November yeah we haven't -- -- -- -- -- -- let me go to -- the second.

For the president in the State of the Union Address this we talked about raising the minimum wage that's from seven a quarter -- tonight I don't know I.

Unions love that -- a -- that idea us.

Because says Wayne said -- in it for themselves they're not thinking about what to.

Best for our country that we live in they're saying god bless America this is our country -- -- acting in their best interest.

Three's the minimum wage in this country small businesses will struggle.

And you will see fewer jobs than we're already seeing -- at seven point 9% unemployment in this country should be careful what you wish for.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Knowledge -- say you know who that that's a good point they reunions say that they represent.

Approximately six to 7% of the of the total workforce and yet they have demanding -- business.

Our country know.

Now this another 95% that is this -- -- -- don't belong to your country mr.

I trumped good you know you just are interested in yourself you're a selfish.

I don't blame you by the way for that but you know it's not right for the country don't pretend that you represent all of us call -- You don't -- you know what's crazy -- is this all comes down to votes again right big labor.

Gives money.

And we buy votes that's -- we've until -- left to -- cleanup is done.

It used to take a step back he cannot be voted in again to sit back and do what's right for the country anymore stop playing the political game anymore and think about it.

We have no money.

Right -- go -- last word well I -- again I have to ask why gods are bashing the unions they're not bashing and same Wall Street interests that you want to close what -- well well let me go yeah.

That's not why not -- summing up close look at it and just new poll what's ironic that ultimately -- put my satellite let me.

Go ahead John what I advocate advocate for a flat tax the president would never go for that in -- the matter is the private sector Julie.

Is actually productive they create jobs we need union jobs didn't do those in government.

Big deal -- had a tremendous not a wealth and that's what additional a lot of in -- -- -- tremendously by a wealth to limit what they curry profits for themselves for their investors.

Government -- and government unions create nothing I mean yeah.

If there were no word guys we got to -- -- -- -- go around and around and around we have to.

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