Power Play 2/18/2013
Immigration plan jeopardized by White House leak and is Sequester unstoppable?
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- Date Feb 18, 2013
Immigration plan jeopardized by White House leak and is Sequester unstoppable?
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-- this second statement were true he said that this secretary.
Secretary of State's office is under the control of Israeli foreign ministers those two together.
-- -- an edge and have view of the Israeli US relationship way out of mainstream so.
I'll just take him at his word unless something new comes along.
Done done done.
-- cliffhanger was Lindsey Graham or from Lindsey Graham talking Chris Wallace on FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace.
And this is power play and I know cliff -- here and Crist are all happy Washington's birthday to you Internet.
Those -- not working today and sitting at home watching this I -- question your judgment a bit but I'm very grateful.
That that -- would join us today.
So Chuck Hagel.
Is Republicans keep saying he's likely to get the sixty votes he needs to get cloture and move on final passage but.
Nobody is too sure what's gonna happen as he sits on the show for the next week the Republicans -- for the first time in history successfully filibustered.
Presidential nominee for a cabinet position we will talk about that today and whether that know -- -- sour on the shelf.
We will talk about how the leak and subsequent threatening.
By the White House.
Of the president's immigration plan make up and the whole shebang as it comes to bipartisan comprehensive comprehensive immigration.
We will do that and we'll talk with the unstoppable sequester the -- -- not.
Of automatic cuts that seems to be all but unstoppable.
-- will do all that we will talk about President Obama playing golf with Tiger Woods really well.
We will talk about that we will have -- points you'll have fun.
And let us begin the fun with your -- -- -- strong.
He covers the congress of the United States will roll call which is it pretty good old newspaper I guess -- call newspaper.
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News outlet the -- welcome back.
-- -- OK and we appreciate that you are working today for Washington would have won at that.
-- the big message for the Republicans on the Sunday show was this yankees getting through.
But we might be able to blow him up and today we have -- the news.
But -- -- today the news about this 2007 speech that he gave it brokers but he was sponsored by a guy with some.
Out of the mainstream attractions to the mullahs in Tehran.
Is this likely to -- and -- it's as -- Graham is its.
-- lacking evidence of what he said prince.
-- -- keep let -- go for via what happened was this first kind of came.
To our attention from Washington pretty -- which found a blog post from somebody.
Who really supported what Chuck Hagel was saying -- -- closed door speech and it in the notes of what he's arguments is that.
US State Department is becoming an adjunct of Israeli foreign policy.
That is more offensive than any of the quotes that we previously seen kids.
So Lindsey -- and the -- Chuck Hagel did you say this and if you did say it do you still believe that he says no I don't remember saying it tonight.
And I disavow it now I don't remember saying it is.
Right you know.
-- -- We have we don't have evidence that's what Lindsey Graham said if they -- video of this is the video does surface of the transcript -- in -- a second witness comes four.
I think I would say his his nomination is in serious peril -- that I think he's he's gonna go through.
It's what it's what happens.
And you trust structures and pat and I can happen.
Especially late in basketball games OK so.
For -- -- no matter what happens let's assume what Lindsey Graham is assuming that.
That the other things are not out there whatever comes out on this and whatever comes out this week just.
Makes it harder for him to do a good job as secretary defense he goes in pretty weak right he's already going in week -- -- that whatever happens next week.
This has been a very ugly confirmation.
Process Bob Woodward said that some democratic senators have been telling.
The administration he should withdrawn zone it's it's not going to be pretty well -- what the democratic -- -- -- saying and board here from what we're not in person later.
But at what what word you're basically saying is that the Democrats are wondering asking the question to the president that we've been asking all along which is is this really worth it.
Are you sure that this is you've really got to have this guys there is there -- waiting to graciously.
-- out of this but for the president this is a big deal because he's making a stand on this point right yeah did he already lost round one of the battle which was letting Susan writes.
You know what that was like stocks though right like it was never clear he kind of supported her like but -- Did she was she was out on her own -- to a large degree right it never got to him actually nominating her but still it was very clear to everyone that -- -- -- -- -- in Washington that he wanted her and he didn't get her.
And now for him to -- -- hagel would just be a sign of weakness it is what the thinking and also he wants to punish.
Republicans for being so Republican right I think that.
I don't think he would put it outlet outlet I read that I don't know what you got that right but -- -- certainly the he'd he'd wanted to hold a lot as a role model for Republicans right that they should be more like him.
Yes I think that's part of that though politics here is look.
Here he's a Republican how can you be against him he's actually to left and -- and -- he meant he self Emily did it is right confirmation hearings and -- Went down.
JD the point says this in the chat hi Chris how are you enjoying congressional vacation.
It's awesome that's no traffic you can go wherever you want and today.
For Washington's birthday it's even more open it's like living in real America so wonderful I cannot even tell you I wish they would stay gone.
All the time especially because they don't do anything here.
Isn't anyone listening I wonder what -- bro I wonder what the border looked like after the -- administration plan was leaked.
What's the timetable going to be -- and on these nominations we've got nobody is working this week.
Brent -- is not their rate this is the week by the way when they are all raising money this kicks off the deep the Washington's birthday break is to kick off for the hot and heavy fundraising for the next electoral -- so that's what they're doing this week.
But so they're off this week what's the timetable untangle what's the timetable on Lou is the president coming -- and -- some people on the job you know they come back.
After this week and that's when we'll see action hagel I don't expect to see action on Lou that following week -- we'll have to see how that officer's questions there.
As well with them is different.
You know things he got a bonus right before his company got.
TARP money yeah but that's what -- got the bonus for right it's for hitting them for giving the party to bail out.
I don't think -- like he did we have as a unit lost money.
Even had experience and can't get experience and getting governments to do things and they gave Citibank like about the billions of dollars yeah well.
It's just a fascinating there's this whole.
Establishment of people in.
Government go to these banks and get these ridiculous -- Rahm Emanuel another example.
Oh yeah people in politics but literally on the democratic side really well do Republicans.
I do OK in the extracted industries.
They sure they do pretty well.
Other's company Halliburton.
That I called Dick Cheney that was pretty good the Republican -- literally go on the manufacturing mining drilling pumping side right the Democrats -- more comfortable on the money.
Does the money changing side right yes well -- well.
Were comfortable with any side that you're on today -- -- as long as you're watching Jonathan we thank you for making conference today -- I think -- Okay Internet I wrote a column about this so.
What's gonna happen now that the president.
Is leaking has -- -- is immigration plan it's.
-- -- What's going to happen as it relates to that you know you should do right now -- -- follow me -- -- firewall on the twitters because Saturday but the column there for you it's there you can during the break you can -- it so that you will be even better when you chat with me here.
On Twitter or in the chat that's all true you should do that and you should stick around.
As the president torpedoing his and plan and shows me that he's really not serious.
There are many people who think Democrats bring up these ideas as wedge issues they don't really ever want to pass them because then they would no longer have the Republicans to blame.
And -- cynicism.
Came from when Paul the junior senator from the commonwealth of Kentucky was very pleased with Chris Wallace and this is -- -- And just because it's cynical doesn't mean it's wrong.
There are a lot of Republicans who think quite -- it's right there are a lot of Republicans who think that the president.
Doesn't want to surrender immigration as a wedge issue because as Mitt Romney and that it is super effective -- Democrats.
As it comes to what to do with ten million or more.
Illegal immigrants in the United States what to do about the borders would do that path to citizenship -- it's complicated Republicans don't talk about it very effectively.
So the president's leaked immigration plan has royal -- waters.
What will the consequence is that to -- this and to keep outlook over where does this -- consequence to what was always going to be a tough bush legislatively.
People who know.
Because they are not so cynical.
They're not as cynical as not to be patriotic minded individuals.
But a cynical enough to know how Washington works.
Our trade Harden he's -- senior vice president -- global.
That is a different ways and he's a Republican strategist.
He is is.
Most fair minded and job growth job our friend who is the president of solidarity strategies and director of the Latino project act.
Which is a very long way of saying that he is a democratic strategist.
Who is deeply immersed in this world organized labor and immigration.
These things -- records are absolutely okay we take it good.
Actually principal with a desperate.
-- in what happened -- box global.
No longer there and moved to the vest will congratulate -- -- -- the -- is a big deal.
Very happy -- are well congratulations.
Are so what about immigration and chuck here's a question the president knew.
That him issuing a -- and members of the Hispanic caucus.
Democrats said please.
Have played if you release plant gonna make it possible for us to do -- -- huge tree the Republicans out.
The president said yes but then on Saturday lately the plan what's the deal well.
I think that as the president said he was gonna have a plan ready to go I think that he regrets it was leaked whether it was -- over persona -- Who will ever know that but at the end of the day he supports most of what dissident has come up -- And I think that he wants to position himself to be ready to act when it is.
Ready for that time to pass your dad but you don't -- it leaking doesn't help right -- well I've -- -- -- between years in the White House and Capitol Hill and political campaigns -- in this -- is not an accident in stone streets over this was -- and you heard -- this other -- there is no accident as it was strategic and the unfortunate element of this is that.
The president I mean just continues to want to.
Kind of use his power uses mandate that he feels coming from the election in how he deals with congress and he's got a terrific opportunity if you go back to 1996 Bill Clinton when he in his state of the union for example for his second term and he reached across the -- -- welfare reform and balanced -- the president.
He worked with.
The -- but that but this presidential.
If my supposition would.
That given the choice between.
A bill that Marco Rubio and John Boehner could both support.
And no bill with a chance to use it against Republicans in mid terms would prefer no bill you think that's true.
I don't think that would be his position that would be my opposition because I -- campaign for -- Latinos to go vote for Democrats for -- right.
The Latino community -- something to happen and we all know that the system is broken yet.
And it has to be fixed and -- either side could use this because it Marco Rubio has a mile -- they he brought a bill.
And that this bill was shot down by Democrats we will say that his bill was a lackluster -- -- -- -- and -- -- -- half -- attempt to try to -- Latino -- -- Yeah absolutely this is I think we're truck I totally agree is that.
-- Yet he cannot talk about this issue without talking about the politics and Ronald Reagan in 198088%.
Of the vote was light.
Now 70% of the vote this way if the Republicans are not recognizing.
That this is a changing country and changing America.
-- -- -- Go forward to their own -- so that I -- the Republicans now chuck knows it did.
We beat the game is out -- Steelers were talking about it right now and why it's -- some.
The probably the only legislative deals that will be of -- there will be some comprehensive coming together people -- We need to do something right it is broken this is the first time that you seem -- -- any other issue almost -- -- -- come together own goes which means you have talked about right but illiteracy over let's do something that we may just -- these high end visas it may see some form of agreement but even Republicans even as you have talked about rightwing Republicans on.
Different news stations would say that something has to be -- Somebody has to be done that a big big key component in all this.
Is a trade off between organized labor.
And the chamber of big between big business and big labor which is that's there's a the -- that was willing to -- -- guest worker program.
Of some time that allows people to be in the United States to work.
In migrant workers and other people are gonna get a green card.
And big business -- -- to accept.
When somebody comes into -- -- -- -- you put their driver's license or identification card through and if they're not citizens they can't come to work.
At what point you know the president didn't include anything about a guest worker program and is in what and what he put out there.
Does this threaten this unusual truce that's been reached.
-- big business and they play the sort of record -- shooting contracts shall we you you have to start with.
Things on the table right and I was a little concerned that I this evening the president proposed about the guess work proposal that has been such a sticky point between the chamber yeah and -- -- but we should have all aspects on the table you're -- how we -- is down to get something done by active.
He reached the point is that it's a lot of people whose hearts in the right place to get something done but everything should be on the table could that did it -- -- to be certain things to make everyone happy that's gonna have to come off the table.
And don't kids are happy -- political -- -- willing to take on what they take off that's the into the debate.
You know this very well -- If this legislation were to be concluded by the end of the summer in the senate that would be.
That would be asked for the United States senate that's what the president wants.
If it were to be passed by both houses of congress before Christmas.
That would be lightning fast for a piece of legislation so big so complicated it's this.
But the present on the game eighteen days before he -- this.
How how Long Will.
-- really it's it's you're exactly right I mean I think we should expect things like these anymore in this -- to happen overnight.
But again that's where I think the president has an opportunity to show leadership to actually.
Acknowledge will get his party to acknowledged just as he said in his state of the union that.
You're not gonna have perfect in -- to have perfection you're only thing that's gonna get past -- this -- -- of both sides hate something in it and is starting it off with this week obviously this frustrated many Republicans were working on it is not a step in that direction and he can he can take a step and say listen let's just come on the White House -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I can say that even George Washington would be pleased with -- patriotism and fair mindedness today gentlemen thank you for joining us.
Thank you for a bigger and well congratulations thank you -- appreciate it all right Matt.
We're going to take a break and you compose yourself -- -- -- because.
We come back your friend Mike Emanuel will be here.
We are going to talk with him about the -- which I don't -- -- but also we will talk about Tiger Woods.
And the president playing often promised them keep it I don't keep it from -- Internet -- correct.
-- as a man who literally wrote the book about the budget battle.
Put those to rest whose idea was the sequester.
And did you ever think that we actually get to this point that first of AB it was the White House who was Obama and Jack -- and rob nabors who went to the democratic leader in the senate Harry Reid and said.
This is the solution but.
Every -- has their finger prints on this.
And that Bob -- -- Who was talking to Chris Wallace.
And -- FOX News Sunday.
This is power play and what mr.
Woodward was talking about there was the fact that it was the president -- now conclusively known Jay Carney.
Told Bret -- as much last week that in fact the White House didn't design.
The concept of automatic brutal automatic spending cuts.
That would -- in place if a blue ribbon commission.
Basically designed to fail.
Failed due to an act different.
And it was in fact the president's idea so what does that have to do anything why is that significant.
That's a good question and it could you know who knows the answers Mike Emanuel who because congress.
It's but -- lay abouts in not working today at is back here.
It DC bureau welcome brother Manuel thank Chris.
This what -- gonna happen right.
-- all indications are absolutely yes and if they want to stop it wouldn't they be here now via -- yet because it happens on the first of march.
Now the Republicans I talked to say this their position on the sequester it's kind of similar to what the -- -- on the fiscal cliff.
Which is to say if it happens and goes into place -- they're negotiating position actually improves networks it's right because the cuts -- in place and now.
There there -- their debating from a position of we get the cuts if we just do nothing right.
And and my -- is it'll happen it'll go a few weeks.
-- if this guy doesn't fall right -- -- government workers around Washington DC you're going to be in full on panic mode.
Right but if this guy starts to fall in pressure will build to get something done at the end of the month and you've got the CR the government funding.
So you can do some funny business then right to take care that you know that shenanigans are gone there's a lot of -- -- -- what you get what you get a wide vehicle open in congress.
And it's late and people are doing stuff and stuff gets added to it that's when weird stuff -- -- right exactly and -- bottom line is.
The Republicans don't want the defense cuts.
But the Democrats don't trust Republicans to do them surgically.
And the Democrats don't want the domestic cuts and the Republicans don't trust them to do them surgically and so.
Republicans are saying bottom line we were here to cut.
Spending in Washington so.
It's not ideal.
But it's something and the president cited saying let's do -- a balanced way and we've heard and that means it increased taxes right and so Boehner McConnell said the president has gotten his tax revenue.
And you heard Paul Ryan say yesterday that if we close loopholes within there's no incentive to do -- Reform -- that's that but that's the whole point for the president right is to get -- got a tax rate increase.
In round one -- he'd like to get a loophole closure in round two and then -- would start negotiating.
On tax reform from a position -- it expects or higher rent and so there's no incentive to do tax reform -- -- -- -- -- for him and this so that but the president's main motivation -- it seems like.
Is that as we saw -- the fourth quarter of 2012.
Cuts to defense spending have a direct impact on the economy because as these -- Lay off folks as state you know -- as the Lockheed's NS APs and all these big.
Defense contractors tighten their belts that affects the economy shirt and it did seem to see what it does to the Washington.
Metropolitan area economy.
Out of all the defense contractors here which you know this Ares had kind of a bubble over it with all the government spending that's been going on over the past few years.
You take away a lot of arm or make those big defense cuts and -- -- -- to see the impact on the overall economy at least in this region.
NBC is reporting right now.
That might Joseph Mathieu hands -- on Jones Joseph wants is -- senator from Nebraska.
And he's going to retire.
He's not going to run for reelection.
And that's that's -- we're Dave Heineman who's the governor of Nebraska.
To run for that seat now interestingly money.
The -- and and is the guy.
Who just -- President Obama over the keystone XL pipeline clearing the way in its -- So would be can congress do any thing didn't.
Tick you off topic can congress do anything.
To go the president on keystone further or in prison sort of pocket veto this.
It seems to be that they you know they're gonna keep needling they're gonna keep pushing they're gonna -- you know they're gonna push every button they possibly can and you know essentially if the economy sluggish.
-- is high and gas is high you know it this is the President's Day weekend it's not worldly weaken our gas prices are way up so.
Where will they be by Memorial Day weekend you may see some pressure building there.
-- thought Mike Emanuel told you he knew and he did thank you -- -- -- okay.
So here's something you should now Jonathan series.
Is on the hunt today he's down in the AT Al.
Getting crowned with Little -- in -- no doubt.
And he will be provided excellent half hour.
Internet television for you and our Internet television -- at -- -- what I'd do.
So that's something you should know occasional I don't know right now that on Monday don't get word from Charles because you can't make it work seven days week.
So how about some power points to.
In the swing that's those are your are points -- today.
First PowerPoint boys' club.
President Obama likes to play golf -- well.
It's cool it's a fun game President Obama likes that this boy it's it's cool I do to everybody should and I just like the president -- to take a -- -- only golf weekend.
Once a year.
And it's a lot of fun -- we don't get to go down to where they go your industry or in West Virginia but whatever it's fine.
We're not better.
But the president.
Included in his.
Out in Tiger Woods.
Who is -- famous professional golfer who is more famous.
Four having had congress with a box of a lot a lot of -- My goodness a lot of women.
Over a long period of time that let his wife to try to kill him with seven iron.
So why would the president do that.
-- probably because it's -- to be president but also.
It must upset women -- that who think that the president hasn't appointed very many women into important cabinet positions and -- -- different ways but it's that it.
President must think it's worth the risk let's say that he must think that it's worth the risk to do something very cool like play golf with Tiger Woods and his second -- point.
Under one -- some people are getting really upset about this really -- -- -- over the president doing this and shouldn't he be working hard to fix the problems etc.
-- -- Look everybody's got to take a vacation everybody's got to break can't work all the time the president went down.
-- little golf -- out if you if you don't like we are now with the -- got to unwind at some point and he's pretty he's pretty good about doing that but here's your third PowerPoint.
This president don't preach.
Here's the deal.
You can go play golf with Tiger Woods you can go do whatever you want but don't be preachy with the Republicans and everybody else but how you're working tirelessly all the time that you won't rest until everybody every American -- employed and talking about fat cats.
And rich people and doing -- fifth because you're living like a rich person.
And by the way and private jet that we pay for and you need a break too so give them a break and a piece of -- that's just look -- of we've come back wrested from -- -- those your power points this was your show you -- -- your George Washington's birthday edition.
But we have a great day we'll see you back here tomorrow.