Dealing with foreign threats to cyber security

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-- North Korea is rationing up its rhetoric.

And making new threats releasing a video showing President Obama and American troops in flames.

-- the north Austin suggesting it conducted its recent nuclear bomb test because -- US hostility.

This as it -- in South Korea with quote final destruction very busy in North Korea this week in the meantime we're awaiting White House action.

And cyber attacks by foreign governments and just a few hours this comes after -- report.

Linking China's military to an unrelenting hacking campaign that just broke yesterday joining us now ambassador John Bolton former US ambassador to the UN.

And a Fox News contributors ambassador Bolton and a few hours the government's gonna come out and say this is what we're gonna do.

If he's hacking attacks continue what should we be saying.

Well we'll have to wait to see what they say exactly but but the notion of finding people who are conducting cyber warfare activities against this.

Sounds to me very much like the administration's reaction to international terrorism that the whole thing is a law enforcement matter rather than.

A question of possible acts of war by foreign states I do think that they.

Commercial aspect of the cyber world it is a that it's the People's Liberation Army in China that's responsible.

For their cyber warfare program I think they understand what it is whether whether our administration understands it remains to be seen.

It's interesting that you say that a former FBI -- is that quoted in a recent article he now works in sever security saying -- the Chinese Chinese Government was flying planes.

Into our air space.

On a regular basis it would be huge problem and we have to confront them but somehow in the hacking attacks that are flying.

-- into our space -- well we have a different.

Thinking about it just as you pointed out why do you think that is why don't we consider it an act of war.

Well I think part of it is that the whole cyber world is is so very different from the fiscal world but I I think what we need really is a ladder of escalation.

As we had in in the nuclear warfare area conceptually to understand what's going on -- their different levels.

A threat starting with just mischief like kids throwing rocks at windows.

Up to criminal activity which is what fines might be appropriate to respond to.

And then the next step on the latter's espionage and then the next step for acts of war and obviously you can break those down but.

We have to get a better sense of what these threats are where they're coming from.

How we should defend against the men and what our offensive response and capability ought to be -- -- that's what the administration should be working.

You may be surprising to some of our viewers that we don't have that latter already was that Latin ladder so to say in existence during the Bush Administration -- is -- a problem.

And immensely in our government in recent years.

Well I think it's a broad problem I think we're beginning to trying to catch up I think we're taking steps to do and I think as a country we have the capability to do it.

But unless we confront this more directly -- at the subject of our national debate.

Which we don't have at the moment I mean what what we're talking about now -- defense cuts that will.

-- -- -- across the board cyber warfare is a new area doesn't replace the existing areas of threat it's another -- we need to consider.

Just what I mentioned of course that obnoxious video from North Korea we've seen a noxious videos from North Korea before as part of their propaganda machine.

We've heard about hacking attacks from China before.

This is a little bit new this report but in general we have what we are seeing now ambassador.

Is more frequency.

Of these type of videos -- these -- reports of attack and an even more brazen.

Do you -- even connected North Korea -- obviously different countries but why are we seeing -- and such misbehavior if you well from this part of the world.

Well I think China sees its power increasing and it is challenging the United States it is not inevitable that China's going to experience.

A peaceful rise to some people say that's possible but by no means inevitable and I think North Korea.

Feels that it's not under constraints night I think they are not rational in the same sense we are rational -- very much worry about.

North Korea having a kind of Hitler in the bunker mentality.

And I do worry about possible connections between North Korea and Iran on their nuclear weapons programs I don't think these are two separate stove -- And I think the threat level against the United States in a variety of fields is rising worldwide.

Threat that would -- -- a conflict war.

Well -- think what we want to avoid the war if at all possible that gets harder and harder to do is the president.

Watches our defense budget being reduced talks about going to nuclear zero reduces our.

Presence around the world if you don't have a strong America that doesn't mean a more peaceful world it means a more unstable more threatening world.

Ambassador Bolton -- like -- back to talk about that connection between North Korea China and Iran it's a very important one that deserves little bit more attention and we can give it right now.

I think is -- for your insights great to have Acer.

Thank you --

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