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And emotional new message from the National Rifle Association is getting attention today.
Justice we see a new gun control message from a political action group on the other side.
That group that used to run the president's campaign that's now pushing his policy agenda.
And they are supporting the president's call for new gun control legislation first the -- A recent close -- speaks to donors politicians and media Bill Clinton spoke about American gun owners.
What a lot of these people all they've -- just there hunting them their fishing -- -- been listening to this stuff for so long with the police.
Barack Obama's 2000 big -- to -- of San Francisco leads.
It's not surprising then they get bitter they cling to guns or religion and we'll.
Be very severe superiority requires this -- -- They don't give us rights we -- -- this -- take to protect.
They don't make this -- Real read this -- -- -- the Second Amendment we always lose.
And our politicians are -- used colorful as we.
Meantime the group organizing for action needs to be organizing for America.
And they are pushing for president Obama's reelection is launching an online ad campaign focusing on members of congress who have not publicly committed to supporting background checks.
And you can see it's sort of it's not and that north sort of these full screen pictures -- concede there's one and tell this congressman it's time to close background check loopholes that's.
That's their focus in this -- So usually winning this message war so far.
Clark reflected as a former consultant to the about a campaign in principle -- consulting Mike Gallagher is syndicated radio host and -- Fox News contributor so.
I mean the NRA -- is obviously powerful -- -- got the music and it's got that you know our liberties about the but in comparison to an online.
-- but the background check issue Marjorie has 90%.
Among the American people so I don't know that they need as many bells and whistles to persuade people nonetheless they need to persuade lawmakers there's not gonna happen.
Right and I think what this ad doesn't -- dangerous about the NRA added that sort of reminds me of an epic movie trailer for a war found.
And the thing isn't it it's not a war and what we need to do and and what's not doing a disservice to all of us is creating that that the bipartisan issue.
Because you stated 90% of Americans actually support the idea of doing background checks.
On people who -- gun owners.
And what the debate has -- is they're trying to take our guns the way are you know we want to keep our guns and that the reality is that's not the debate at all it's about.
Coming up with a responsible.
That allow people -- -- still go hunting in and have their -- to do so.
But also to make sure that there are people who are certifiably.
Mentally ill running around with semiautomatic weapons that -- -- at risk.
And with they did this year and shopping malls and an elementary schools -- -- I think that's what we need to do.
-- in the detail -- and he -- -- because you know there have been other side gets upset when they hear.
The president or his supporters talk about what you need and -- and always fall back on hunting because they say.
I don't have to hunt.
I don't need -- hunting I consider my own house and have a gun for self protection or just about one I had it because the constitution says it can't.
Well the rhetoric is very important -- and I noticed the Marjorie couldn't resist.
Right at the outset using the word dangerous.
In the same sentence with the NRA there's nothing dangerous about the NRA message it's a powerful message.
I mean Marjorie come on this is not there's nothing.
-- let me finish please there's nothing scary about the NRA's position.
That Americans get to hold on to their constitutional right to keep and bear -- -- I do think there's are a great debate to be had and there's nothing wrong -- talking about expanded background checks and -- I've gotten a lot of flak from my conservative colleagues because I think it's time to have that conversation -- I'm -- with the so called -- -- 90% who say that.
You know it's OK to close some loopholes if there are loopholes that exist nobody wants dangerous people to get their hands on guns but we need.
The NRA now more than ever when President Obama and lists his.
-- to go after -- target congressman who are Second Amendment friendly this fight is -- is a tough when it's it's a real difficult battle Obama I think.
The left is afraid that they're gonna lose this battle I think Obama thinks she's gonna lose that I don't think -- -- realistic way that they're gonna in -- upon the constitutional rights of law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms I.
We're going to be -- Am pretty clear about what I think dangerous I'm not -- -- an hour and I'm not putting that in any particular -- with a group I'm pointing that it anyone who is politicizing this discussion.
Because I'll come -- both sides are doing now like the level of -- let us let me -- group.
-- -- -- -- -- They always do that animated about our -- sick of these Washington politicians or -- notebook is that about why I ask you something like that -- a larger point.
That the obesity at the jumped out at me in the NRA -- is something that we hear a lot.
From conservative blogs and in more conservative viewers and it was the part where they talk about.
The arrogance of their superiority requires this reminder they don't own us they don't give us rights we grant -- power.
They don't make us safe we -- to protect them.
They don't make us free we -- free already.
The NRA is trying to take this into a much more fundamental place of this is about government infringement on your liberties and -- and that is a theme that.
Has resonated in an -- -- on gun control.
Yeah and it I think that's an important part of how this is becoming politicized but we have to think about in our country what our overall values are.
Freedom is absolutely one of them safety and protection -- also part of those values and I think that's where the discussion of how do we create a rule of law.
And a rule of order because when we look at our country for example when you go to get your driver's license.
You hot you can't -- apple like that or you can't have good vision problems because that endangers other Americans by you being on the road.
In the same way that if we have a mentally ill gun owner.
That with other Americans in danger so I think it's not about taking away rights it's about creating protections that make -- encrypting and maintaining.
Still independence but also safety and if you usually you can get.
A driver's license with vision problem you just had that you can't -- Clinton limited you can -- my mind.
I read it correctly it -- -- -- now let me try to go ahead Mike but.
-- what you -- -- and it's an important one a lot of the anti gun crowd can't resist using the phrase.
-- the parameters do you really need it you know -- and and and Americans resent the heck out of being told by a politician.
What they think we need or don't need listen.
Guys I'm sorry this is the silly season we've got Vice President Biden literally advising people to go by a shotgun and fired in the air outside your back door and that'll scare off the burglars -- That's not just crazy Joseph spouting off President Obama has -- Vice President Biden to head up.
Pro productive ways to battle this particular issue are you kidding me we got crazy uncle Joseph Biden the guy who comes over for Thanksgiving dinner and rebels into apparently in charge of advancing this problem so -- or this kind of this conflict debate between gun owners in the gun grabber so.
This -- those overseas.
You know edited at some -- lawyer came out and said -- What that what the vice president advises illegal if you can't you know he -- -- got -- in Delaware and hinted that it had to do it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well I think -- highlighting the many ironies that exist here in the same way that I find it ironic that we let someone out of prison and be mentally -- running the Streep also with a semiautomatic weapon that the vital link to kill people -- I think.
You know the key -- the got to highlight what the -- -- think -- -- and -- polarizing issue.
No it's like you mentioned the mentally ill and it's like all we have always it would about the mentally ill wait -- -- rid of that discussion ago you are -- great to see you thank you both so much thanks thanks.
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