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But since then you are gonna go to South Dakota and Oregon and -- -- It's again.
And then we're gonna watch it is clear to make that -- right -- it's.
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Turns out the screamer in case you -- -- and this -- really does know what's up.
Because this idea only the -- -- gonna end up paying more role of -- big government.
Stick a syringe and it bend over I'm telling -- this is gonna.
Welcome everybody I'm real pivotal and leave it to let doctor doctor to give us all a dose of reality and -- Former democratic presidential candidate Howard -- knows that it's great.
Apparently he also knows how to count.
Somebody has to tell that.
Middle class that you you're either your taxes are gonna go for your programs and -- get cut or else we're gonna go -- financial oblivion and nobody really wants tellem that.
So there's a diagnosis you want big government you've got to pay for big government and -- more -- -- radio bugs going out and come again.
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Shot -- -- he's taken it now to Adam Lashinsky.
Charles pain that he speaks words of wisdom these states words it was a lesson we've already got behind the 160 million Americans are very bill that pain but I think the point is that sensors -- between -- Howard Dean had to say.
And with the New York Times had to say this week.
Is that they're trying to guess the get the rest of the country to know listen we're gonna.
Those rich bastards that somehow that -- took the money.
But do -- at the shipment to because normally at this giant society with all kind of -- them.
And big utopia that they would -- big -- at the top and it's gonna see everything they've been benevolent all you have to do is Wear spandex uniform and walk around -- will be the -- what we -- at -- did not say it -- -- -- -- -- I -- remember this -- accident upon our day and what do you -- -- around.
I say it -- Howard Dean is telling the truth and he could have you know showed a little bit more energy in that interview that he he gave.
But if -- in the face of what you hear from the White House the president that somehow the rich can foot the bill yeah.
Higher taxes and all this and that we have it's what we've been talking about the show.
If you want big government you're gonna have to figure out a way to pay for it and we have almost half of Americans paid no federal income tax net.
So they're gonna end up paying in something and some in come hell or high water -- will.
Well you know they always say better relate to the party been completely missing the party but the fact of the matter is Howard Dean didn't say any of his stuff before the election on gratefully sank.
It now and -- reminding us Ben Stein a basic math right now.
But I don't know certainly if there is the official appetite now to tell the middle class he's right.
Well I don't think there's ever a good time to dub him that taxes are gonna be -- but it's -- -- -- you've been Al torturing me on this every year.
We've got to raise taxes on every -- the rich get -- it more than middle class act you're gonna have to go out we've just been living like and so -- like yeah.
-- that you're saying that it will adapt to because we have no will to cut spending.
We have no Wheldon got spending we should cut spending -- -- -- going to cut spending we have got to raise -- there's been a high spending.
Loved -- governments -- -- -- long the party's over.
Sorry -- party's over got to pay taxes now.
-- in Iraq that would put us and hope you're -- That.
Had to do it but Adam wouldn't nobody is down right and -- and it is the good doctor right.
Well -- -- he's he's right about the messaging of all of this -- that president doesn't wanna say this the Republicans not only don't wanna say it but don't believe it right the Republicans don't wanna raise taxes.
For any reason what is.
However because they -- to do -- die they just did it.
Well let's and that's exactly where I want it where I want to go this I think what what the good doctor is not looking at is that we've gone -- gone -- -- I had no idea he was in fact a -- done it anyway yeah I don't know the anyway right here and good luck but we know that you -- we know that you love to play that -- scream from 2004 we all love to replay of the -- from 2004.
But taxes are going up and not just on the rich bastards that Charles written about represented.
You don't you're not or it's -- -- We will be Affordable Care Act I refuse to call it obamacare will raise taxes on everybody the payroll tax going up raises taxes.
On everybody so whether or not the politicians -- so.
It is happening and I agree with Ben it's a good thing that it's happening -- -- to -- took.
I know I don't know that it then sends a good thing that is evidently you knobs that it could have I had it has to happen well well well our president -- has a certain power that cannot -- divide all right well here's where a lot of fight your -- tickets say if if we are giving yet and already conceding we have to pay more taxes because we don't have the will the resolve or even the interest in cutting the size.
Of government the way it is now than we might as well just surrender our wallets and been given.
Get more out of them.
Well I -- read data read something like that is going to have to happen I mean we have been voting to spend more and more and more for decades now.
We have been cutting taxes throughout the -- Mr.
Bush took office.
-- -- going to have to raise accidentally are a lot of us are gonna have to turn over our wallets at a government resident Natalie great business plan for getting us to do that they'll -- do it the boy under the gun you got a federal better than -- don't do it so.
That's a story we're getting pushed around by government that is -- -- having dialogue that we didn't give out of it.
I've got to let go I gotta look up now I'll take him at this.
Do you think that part of the -- a -- is.
That Howard Dean is sort of pushing the president sooner rather than later.
Just get it out there you and I both love the government's present we're big fans of of what you're doing and what you're messing.
Just get it out there are two to charles' point that if you -- these wonderful things on -- senior interest everybody to pay more for.
Part of that I think we did the Republicans can take a -- take aways from what.
Howard Dean as -- as well in the sense of light.
Okay it's your choice spend cut spending or higher taxes you want.
On infrastructure spending and you're gonna have pay more -- gas taxes you liked the fact.
That you have all this on Medicare that you get all the services well the American people are gonna have to pay.
More for that that is your choice if you've laid out the argument that way.
I think that at least we would be able to make an honest decision about I am willing to give this up I am willing to give this up and then we would be able to cut spending in a way that we haven't met.
You know the irony of all of this Charles when push comes to shove and then in the corner and don't give him his due out.
This is everything that Romney's.
You know we've talked about the 47% of the target of the people got their nose out of joint -- targeting me and I'm up on the from a military personnel to target -- -- -- retiree.
Old very valid are so good arguments -- -- Did that you're you've you've you've given your -- reasons are -- giving -- a good deal of money and taxes to society.
What he was saying it how did this get to the point where now most analysts are not paying any federal income taxes and sure enough you someone like Howard Dean come along and say diplomat that that can't -- Well Ben just said we voted and more more -- for these taxes and over the last W has been as right but the weak part of it.
The department Ronnie talked about.
That voted for more taxes more voting themselves the pay more taxes so what happens when -- we.
Have to actually put more skidded again because they are gonna have to put more skin in the game and by the way here's the problem with all of this -- Did emboldens more spending.
This big problem higher taxes don't negate spending and -- -- that we raise the -- -- -- trillion won't the government would spend two trillion it's like given a crack addict more cracks they were somehow this'll make him stop.
It's not it's not this is the Clinton actually Sonnenfeld and -- yeah yeah the good to get revenge around here predict.
In the end of America and I I cannot be that pessimistic -- -- but -- well enough.
Think Thinkpads and listen but I think we'll look at human nature look around the world -- for thirty years is that unemployment over 7% they're running all the people out of the country actually make money.
I mean we can -- for all eyes were this involved not all of them Charles just just want to be angry creditors and real great itself well being -- -- you've got more billionaires and Moscow and Beijing that inning did all of France combined the rest of the world gets it -- that's kind of crumbles under this Fairness Doctrine rent the red.
-- -- later you're not gonna say China is lighter and got him taxation in the US have been basically the Chinese state owns.
All countries are there that's -- -- load tag society.
Good luck with this -- is capable of great at discipline on a great -- Not that well who loved the -- where -- there will be until like someone that's on that's what does it says you know what I'm gonna cut spending we've got to take some pain at some point you know there's there's a limit to how much we can tax herself joining.
Here band -- -- like Howard Dean talk about taking away some of his mortgage interest and I thought that.
-- pacers and suggested some -- report by the way the president is seen what's it.
So I don't -- -- -- run by.
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