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-- we actually avoid these gut wrenching government financial roller coasters that seem to come along every few weeks and get our nation back to real economic health.
One of those governors a government official was taking action on -- Happens to be a veteran of Washington who served in congress and the senate Republican governor of Kansas Sam Brownback governor welcome thanks for joining us this morning.
Good to join yet you know you're in Washington for the meeting of the governors I -- what do you -- talking about and what do you predict will happen.
If this sequestration does kick in on Friday.
-- we were talking about a lot of things done about a lot of health care but also the sequestration it's happening at the sequestration happens you're gonna see some.
Across the board cuts I think the one we're looking at the most in our state immediately it's towards the military.
To take place who got major military bases in the state -- what -- that are lower -- mean to you and to your state.
-- -- reduction of income going to be a big hit on a number of these families.
That would take place if if that happens on the other hand I'm glad we're finally talking about how you start -- with us debt and deficit and I've I've really would.
Urge the president the congress to sit down and really talk this thing for a yeah John McCain is saying they should call up folks to at Camp David I mean look do you think this president really will.
Do that or this congress can actually do that you served.
For for many years up on -- now.
-- well it happens every year at the state legislature.
We've got a budget.
We get towards the end there's disagreement between house senate and the governor and we sent down.
And you sit down multiple times a day you go OK I'll do this and I can't do that I could try this okay -- -- -- you work it through.
It happens in every state.
Every year I did this is not a foreign concept so I I really do think the president needs to step up in the congress needs to be open.
The -- let's have long time let's have sessions go to Camp David.
But let's really dig through the nuts and bolts in the pieces of this wouldn't get something done by march 1.
And beyond that you know you've had.
And they're working in in Kansas to do -- -- that's quite remarkable to some people that's actually trying to get rid of the income tax.
What do you think you can prescribe to the nation.
So that we avoid these secret sequestration is in the financial -- in the fiscal -- and all that so we can actually get together and.
Solve this problem.
You know I -- it it sounds overly simplistic but for too long government is focused on the revenue side of the equation for them but not on their spend this side of the equation.
And what what I've done -- what many governors have done is really digging into the stands side of the equation.
To look at how much ready paid for this building what are we paying for this pump how much service -- do we really need to do this.
So you focus on key areas of government in some cases grow those put more funds and but other -- -- say we can't do it anymore.
Or we're going to -- -- this building so that we can have it on somebody else's capital expenditure.
What we really have to do I think -- the federal that was dig into the nuts and bolts of the -- -- side of this.
At the same time you gotta get growth taking place and that means your tax structure SP one encourages growth.
But on the federal level and it's so bad governor you know that I mean who's gonna -- this is this up to the executive forces -- -- congress.
I eat you got Smart people.
IA but you've got a tax them to do it and then you have to get a barrier that thing we've ever had at the federal level -- a balanced budget amendment.
Not something I think 49 of fifty states have so you have to do it every year.
Well now you're getting up against your barrier at the federal level and it's time to -- again this is this is doable.
And it'll be better at the end when we get it done but I think you can look at a lot of different states that -- handled these problems already.
You talk about getting up of that debt level and -- a look at the debt clock just for a second this thing is spinning and spinning were what sixteen under comes there artists.
Get up just more than sixteen and -- -- beyond.
What we do about that and can we realistically cut the debt to get back to fiscal health.
I I think you can and you got to do two things at the same time and we can do it.
You -- really dig and you're spending line by line piece by piece and cut -- cut you're spending and I came in I -- a 500 million dollar projected deficit.
Year and a half later we have a 500 million dollar surplus we cut taxes in that period of time you can we can do that here but the second issue got to get growth happening.
Growth is essential we've got a record number of new business formations in Kansas because we took our tax off of all LLC and sub S income.
Well people then movie and a comment and they start and they grow.
-- we've got to do that federally at the same time get your spin down and get growth taking place and you can do it but it has to be done.
At the same time what about those who think that -- could be regressive they get -- that you know not having a contest could potentially really hurt working people.
Well I just say look at the data.
You got a series of states that don't have any income tax and -- generally some of the most growth or United States in America.
And you can question regressive -- with that with with -- sales tax I think those are legitimate questions to raise.
But the other day I think the American public wants to see job creation in the federal government needs to see you revenue growth taking place in growth in the economy.
And I think that's the key thing for us to look at -- -- and we get the economy to grow in this country.
And do you see now that you're back in Washington after after many years serving there is it Visalia hope I mean you see any light at the end of the time on -- gone -- this constantly.
Ever a couple of weeks it seems and what is going on and what should they do and -- -- we kick him in the butt to get something done.
Well you know at least it's starting to be confronted.
Unfortunately for many years this wasn't even being confronted.
So now you get -- sequestration limits which are things states face every year they called balancing budgets.
I and I I'm glad the discussion is finally start it.
I it's a little late but that's also typical -- public policy making it often you gotta have.
Prairie fire coming at six feet high before people OK I think it's time we start thinking about what we ought to do around here and finally think -- go through on Friday.
What's your prediction.
Can't I can't tell it it looks like a number of people are well -- just let this one going hadn't and happened where preparedness if this is going to happen.
I just really do hope -- -- get together and get realistic about it because we do have to deal of their debt and deficit and it's time we start confronting these problems.
A warning and advice from governor Sam Brownback governor we thank you so much for joining us talking about that fiscal prairie fire.
That is the consuming our nation thanks for being with us this anymore.
Thank you Governor Brown.
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