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Circumstance in the meantime the dirty areas capital murder trial is resuming it's actually happening right now.
As we speak areas is back on the stand facing a second day of cross examination by a prosecutor.
Working so hard to poke holes in her story the thirty year old is charged in the brutal stabbing and shooting death.
At her lover Travis Alexander back in 2000 nation does admit to killing him but claims it was in self defense with a prosecutor wants to do.
As a prosecutor here wants to prove that she.
At -- Alexander in a jealous rage self defense and that will do -- that.
-- Hanson is a criminal defense attorney -- of the board is a former prosecutor and Rickie by -- -- -- live pictures and did ban now and then just dead to show our viewers what's happening here but could question for you Heather.
Do you do we say is haven't expiration date kind of like milk cart -- you know this is your tenth day on the trial.
Is there are -- where she becomes ineffective if you out.
I I think so and I think that -- is that it that the point has passed I believe you know this jury has been listening to her for a long time in the defense -- on the stand from a nine days.
Now it's that it prosecutions chance and they should have that opportunity to cross examine her.
But the quicker she can make her answers the shorter -- that time that she can respond to the cup cross examination the better option he has this jury -- got to be tired of this case do you think it was helpful to the defense street think it's been helpful to the prosecution.
I think the defense had to keep her on it so that she could create a relationship as best she could with the -- -- that they're not gonna wanna put her to death.
However there's a fine balance between keeping her on long enough to create that would have a relationship and not -- -- the jury and making them feel as though her time -- passed.
You -- I want to ask you about how this prosecutor is doing and we have a little sounds.
I just a snippet of the way that this trial.
Is going this cross examination must -- that now.
That wasn't true was it that you were there the problem was that.
Can you can.
And in fact you were there for a different purpose you there's an act he wouldn't give you the truth right now -- -- -- against England.
You are there extra -- he didn't have to talk to them did.
In my head I -- it didn't you have to talk -- You.
It is true that you could have chosen not to talk to her right.
He could -- -- everything we usually good things.
At the time -- He's.
So this is going on a -- a call Martinez the lawyer mr.
Is talking over her sometimes she's looking at mr.
Martinez like I know I I you speaking English like you -- got tears -- blue or green -- shall be like or what what do you mean what.
What do you mean by that the -- it's it's crazy to see them kind of work off each other what do you think of the prosecution -- here.
Well I mean it wasn't the -- -- risky early ever wanna engage in a whole lot of argument necessarily with the witness and let the witness has done something to deserve it now the interesting thing here is is that she may very well have done something to deserve it and what I mean by that is.
That she'd -- -- not being able to are claiming that she can't understand simple questions is probably pushing the limits of the jury's.
Top -- for her end they're not going to be minding when the prosecutor goes after her -- These ridiculous comments that she's making that she says that she doesn't understand the question when the question is really pretty clear physically can't be risky but if it's done the right time it's effective so right now awaited the jury is right now on -- -- do you think there's one juror in there that -- you know -- She's probably driven today she did she wanna carry on bag she's probably driven to this and that -- juror.
We'll save her from the death penalty do you think the jury box looks that -- right now.
You know it's impossible to say -- mean -- this this.
Defendant has started out with such an absurd series of stories about what occurred that she's not made herself -- particularly likable.
Arguing that with the prosecution and snickering at the prosecutor makes her less likable.
That being said jurors do sometimes have a difficult time putting females to death and that's what this case is about.
And what about the optics of that Heather because it's an -- being aggressive with this what what appears to be this sneak one and and and -- even -- sit on the stand you know you're you're talking to me the way -- Travis talked to me.
Is that that you got it right so helpful to the defense tip to getting her -- you're getting her off meaning.
She will not keep its -- I think that that's what they're trying to do at this point -- Juan Martinez is an alpha male and he is definitely going after her.
And she's trying to make it look as though she's feeling intimidated to remind the jury perhaps that this is how she felt that her relationship with Travis Alexander.
As you said Jenna she needs just one juror.
To side with her so that she's not put to death in the death penalty and she gets second degree which is what they had -- toward the beginning when they tried to please and you think she has it.
You know it's hard to say there's still all the experts to be heard I mean this trial was not anywhere near -- ending there's a defense experts and the rebuttal expert from the prosecution to be -- with regard to her psychological that a lot -- -- he had Heather and call thank you for your expertise today we appreciate it.
Thank you thank you.
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