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Liz Peek & Basil Smikle Jr. explain why they think both parties can’t agree on a deal
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I don't think we're that close to a deal on their absolutely will not be record keeping on with the legitimate law abiding gun owners in this country.
And if they want to eliminate the benefits of actually trying to prevent the sales to people who are mentally ill.
And -- criminals all have to do is create.
-- record keeping and that will kill this bill so if you really want to improve it you have to it'll eliminate the record keeping.
And give people the right and the responsibility to do the right thing and they and that's check on the it -- -- to make sure you're not selling again.
Because somebody -- in one of those two category.
Was Tom Coburn -- on FOX News Sunday talking there about what kind of consensus might be reach.
And gun control or gun background checks or something for goodness sakes.
That relates to the -- shootings.
That we cannot seem to come to some kind of a conclusion.
So should we talk about that and what the future may hold for us.
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OK so guns right.
The V.
What Coburn is talking about there is that there seems to be some consensus.
Gathered around the idea of something on background checks.
Harry Reid is playing this pretty close to the best we don't know exactly what's gonna happen.
But do you guys get the sense from having seen deals being made and not made is there a chance for something at all.
On gun control -- background checks that's what service -- You know I I'm starting to get worried that there's not going to be a deal and this was my concern from the very beginning a I was concerned that.
The moment we would lose the momentum after the after the after the shooting as we started to talk about.
Sequestered because that's that's where we are right now.
When my concern again is that the Democrats are going to cave because they're gonna try and barter this with something else that's.
Disturbed me -- they may feel -- this is important.
I do my guess is that.
The background checks -- as there is sort of as -- said will will kill this bill and -- -- that's unfortunate it should go through.
I am all about stronger background checks but my guess is that it's gonna kill this bill we're going to be back where we started.
And I think list.
I take a different view I think background checks have overwhelming.
Popular support and I think Republicans are perfectly okay with that.
The idea of a national register is very different that means something that would be theoretically publicly available and we've seen what happens when.
The list of gun owners can fall into the hands -- for example -- newspaper who goes out and publishes them.
I think that's a terrible idea and I think the Republicans.
Will it would do very well to oppose it I think this is another issue.
Where it'll be very interesting to see whether the Obama White House and the Democrats in congress actually want to deal or -- they just want another.
Stalemate or failure where they can land based Republicans as we head into the 2014.
Elections for being the party of no.
But they've been the but I would say that the I understand the issue about warning to get not -- and have your names put in a newspaper article.
That was -- new York and that is a big deal and I I do think that was wrong but I am actually not opposed to some Carter -- mean that's that's the case here in New York you can.
Do -- do you -- of information act you can get those that that information.
It is public information and it's been public for very long time it's only recently that that information was approaching the people.
So I don't know if there's a wave from -- First Amendment point of view that you can keep that from happening and that's unfortunate.
But I do do I do agree that.
That is that can cause a lot of problems and safety problems for legal gun owners and it.
You're unfairly targeting them and I do I do understand that but but to some extent as long as it's a tool for law enforcement I'm -- -- Some oppose national registry.
-- -- -- That's where the issue you have primaries but if if it's available to everybody who wants to have access to it I think it's a terrible idea in affect you already have a national registry.
It to the extent that when you are legally -- -- -- -- you have to you know filed forms and so forth and those forms presumably don't evaporate -- available to law enforcement now.
Hope -- lives out question and other business.
Universal background checks and there's universal background checks.
Universal background check as described by people who are trying to put together such piece of legislation in the senate.
Bipartisan NRA back conceivably.
Plan that deals with.
Closing the gun show loophole which is to say that -- gun dealers.
Who are that's what they do for professionally or part of their professional lives go to gun shows that they would be subject to the same background checks.
Or were good running the same background checks his regular -- merchants do -- exempting.
Trades gifts swap thing neighborhood purchase namely.
-- and stuff like that is that what we're talking about here.
Well I think we're talking about extent expanding that the background checks and yes particularly to that.
Very large sector of sales which now is not covered I don't -- get that I don't know why they ever.
Adopted a bill that wouldn't cover.
Legal.
Transactions that take place at these gun -- I don't really understand that I think they they think that all these if if it's.
This required a store.
Why isn't it required at a -- -- that's -- seems stupid to me so.
I.
And I would think that most people would agree with that I think that -- -- show most people do agree that.
So Basil is there a way -- that if if there are enough Republicans -- to get on board with.
The commercial side of this more universal commercial background checks then maybe a deal might be salvaged out of this right.
I'm I'm you know what I'm hoping that that's the case but this that the gun show loophole I mean closing all these -- -- these that's.
We should we shouldn't really be even talking about that should just happened.
Because it's easier for me -- I mean it's easier.
Elusive I have to if I want to give a car -- a part of my father I have to go through all kinds of people work.
With the state had to -- to be able to do that I I don't see why that's a problem.
For -- per well on defense.
Her to guard -- dazzle your you do not have.
A Second Amendment right to an automobile.
You do have these these -- framers were careful to put that in there so we have to be sensitive to us.
I understand until and if that's the thing and it's not that can't don't want to see people owning guns just warrant.
The law law enforcement to have the tools to be able to track them appropriately and that's that's really where where I -- on this but -- -- but two to your question.
I do think if the or are there is consensus around.
The closing loopholes I think Republicans you can get on board.
-- -- -- -- -- I think that's right I think I think I think you raised two different issues -- -- one is the background checks that I think as I say that there's pretty good popular sport for that and if we have already crossed that bridge where we think that if you walk into a store.
And you buy a gun you have to register and act on it and -- to do it legally I don't really see why.
That should not pertain to all gun sales that are done lately so I don't think that's a big issue I think the national register as a different issue and I don't -- -- see that.
Made available at it -- fassel's right I mean to some extent that information sour already out there I just would.
Really oppose it being made available like there's too many things that can go wrong with.
As we see recently.
Liz dazzled Smart insightful patriotic and helpful -- everybody thank you very much.
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