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View is here and that lays out freedom our freedom what when -- on the wed in any way -- freedom means social media there's -- -- -- some disturbing.
Demand is not I'm not least the fact of which anyone of us could be -- did any time by via.
US government under the new laws but according to freedom -- which is a nongovernmental organization research foundation.
Essentially I'm publishing is freedom on the net every freedom on the net 2012.
Had some disturbing information in it about how many governments around the world and -- trying to restrict our freedom.
They say out with some justification I guess that they're doing it in the name of keeping us all safer when we get so many.
Cyber attacks against us but David how concerned -- you about the the loss of freedom the sort of whittling away we are seeing all of that it.
Should be concerning to all Americans and an administration that is willing to use drones domestically.
Is very concerning.
So this.
These requests that it were made of Google.
And probably even more -- other -- online companies.
Not surprising is an area where the other two branches of government.
The legislative congress and you did this show.
Need to step -- and make sure that we are putting the proper framework in place.
So that we don't have an executive branch not just this executive branch any executive branch.
From being able to come -- and look at it.
Data that may have no relevance.
To national security or.
Any or crime data.
Nothing that can connect.
The average American.
With any sinister activity making sure their free and is protected so that they they can use the Internet knowing the government's not looking over their shoulder at everything they're doing.
All right -- penny before I bring you in on this I just want to remind our viewers of -- President Obama.
Said about the threat of cyber attacks against the United States during his State of the Union Address last month.
America must also basis for the rapidly growing threat from cyber attacks.
Now.
We know hackers steal people's identities.
And infiltrate private emails.
We know foreign countries and companies swipe our corporate secrets.
-- our enemies are also seeking the ability to sabotage our power -- Our financial institutions.
Our air traffic control systems.
We cannot look back years from now and wonder why we did nothing in the face of real threats to our security and our come.
-- and -- of course I'm wishing the our way it is not yet marks the first so that was this month.
Penny -- it's it's a -- that David was also just mentioning Google.
The US government also Google for data all its uses more than 31000.
Hockey teams.
In 2012.
Alone this is this is something it's -- terror sort of get excited about it all get looked up about it for.
For a lot of people because it's not something we can see.
We can't see something like.
And attempted bombing in Times Square all we -- we don't see a war taking place -- -- but there is a war going on here.
And it strikes me that it's becoming.
As much as the war of that test cyber attack is attacking us it's a war between the individual and the government.
In this case.
Yes I anytime you -- on -- -- -- that and you think that that conversation in -- -- engage in a conversation do you think that conversation is going to be credit.
I think it's a little -- heat.
Mean you are entering into a public -- at at at that point but I do think that there needs to be a balance in needs to be straight similar to what we have to go through with what we went through with the fight to court.
And establishing those in now was because he we -- -- phone companies at that time during the Bush Administration.
To eavesdrop on on calls that we're going to go overseas whether or not they were linked to any type terrorist activities.
-- -- -- created a fight that course that the judge they would have to be able to review the data in real tiny matter to be able to then issued the warrants.
Similar I imagine -- we're gonna have to be treating some tight end.
-- -- systems such as that before they go leaning into the Internet but I think people need to be aware of the fact that.
Whether or not the government is taking a look at your conversations on the Internet or.
If private company that has sold it to so that you can get marketing you know advertising over whenever you're you're searching that is.
You know just recently -- -- you know very targeted personal emails her -- for coming at me.
Specifically because of what I shopped on you know shocked the out of course so.
I think there needs to be -- balance but I also think people need to not be -- -- that did just that when they go on everything that they say -- and is going to be proud.
There it is a brave new world and Big Brother is watching us that's -- -- -- Penny leave for the senior advisor to senator Harry -- great to see is always penny at David -- that a president of gopac great to see you too David thank you both accused of being parents such a civil and informed.
Debate as always -- those two thank you very much guys.
