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Amb. John Bolton explains how North Korea has used Dennis Rodman in their propaganda games
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NBA star turned diplomat and wild man Dennis Rodman is telling all about his trip to North Korea and last week Rodman and -- out and partying with a North Korean leader Kim Jong -- The two watching basketball on eating sushi and now -- Mattel on ABC news that he what's -- in Kim Jong on discussed.
Us that we were two days and one thing he asked me give up Obama something -- -- and you wouldn't think he'd want Obama to do Wednesday.
-- him he wants a call from President Obama that's right he told me that he's if you can Dennis.
I don't want do war.
I don't want to war he loves basketball.
Not for the same basket Obama loves basketball.
-- thought there.
Former reinvested Jumbo loan giant says he's got big giggles so many -- and talks like to the macarena money matter recovers but there.
You like that up.
You know if it if it weren't for the tragedy of what's going on in North Korea he really could dismiss it lightly but Dennis Rodman and I'm sad to say the Harlem Globetrotters who accompanied him.
Were played for fools by this dictator in North Korea.
He gains legitimacy he gains international.
Repute he gains credibility amongst some people I suppose.
All the while he's continuing to develop nuclear weapons ballistic missiles and oppressing his people.
Let me give you another twist just to considers -- we have had no contact with this -- we have no idea would Kim Jung -- is like at all.
I realize -- Dennis Rodman is quite a -- guy and quite an instinct fellow I might add -- But we now have a at least we have a communication.
From -- -- to this guy which is more than we've ever had.
Yet the question is what communication went in to -- then what can you what reported that communication is coming out I mean you can get a distorted view and I I just started I think I think -- -- I think he has presented distorted -- look if they want to communicate with us.
There are ways to do it and it's a question here not have.
One individual.
Kim Jung on its a question of a regime.
That has followed a pattern including since he took office repressing its people and threatening it's neighbors and nothing since Kim -- took power after the death of his father.
Has changed if anything it's gotten worse they've restricted the border even more to prevent North Korean refugees coming out they've tested.
Their nuclear device for the third time.
There's every indication of increased cooperation with Iran so I think the thread.
Is growing larger and yet there are what Vladimir Lenin called useful idiots.
Who go to North Korea Eric Schmidt of Google Dennis Rodman the New York Philharmonic.
We're used played for fools by the North Korean regime.
But industry tab 10051 of those useful fools you -- talking about what you at least report things out as you see them as opposed to the propaganda that these people are simply -- transmit and.
This is the -- this is probably the worst place on earth.
Mean these people have -- rethought it's a prison camp it is it is -- large prison camp and we've been unable to bust through and had any communication he is testing nuclear weapons he's a threat to the whole region is a threat to South Korea Japan.
You know I say -- and we have we have no idea what's going on there.
Well I think.
Because I say we could have all the communication with them that we want it is an illusion to believe that even with a lot of communication we can talk them out of their nuclear weapons program that this is not a case where.
Personal relationships or more open communication are gonna change that regime that's why I think the only real.
Answer here is that the regime needs to disappear in the two Koreas have to agree I didn't.
I think it to stop being afraid of us I tell you that when I'm there they think that every Saturday -- ever seen on American sit around thinking how we gonna kill those north Koreans and what I was stats and when they when they told me that I said well frankly with that you actually ordered pizza or Chinese food what movie do you want to meet the -- very different they -- that the people in my script actually think we're trying to kill them every single day well.
I think it's also a vision of what they think they want on the Korean Peninsula I mean this is the world's only hereditary Communist dictatorship.
They've got a very distorted view of everything up to and including China.
But the real burden here is gonna have to be on China it's not because suddenly Kim Jong-un is gonna have a revelation based on.
Communication with Dennis Rodman or air action under the -- New York Philharmonic.
Or or John Kerry while we're on the subject.
There interest their direction is utterly opposite of ours it's detrimental -- everybody in the region and there's really only one long term solutions.
And that that is I think I think China could step up but we've we've discussed that before China wants this the sooner the better well I think they're younger Chinese leaders are getting ready to imagine they are this --
