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An -- very happy to welcome back to our microphones former director -- -- governor Gary Johnson libertarian presidential candidate and when he twelve.
He was -- Republican governor of New Mexico from 1995 -- 2003.
He -- our American initiative in 2009.
He saw the Republican nomination for president and then when he didn't -- those debates became the libertarian nominee for the office.
Governor thanks -- coming once again always appreciate it.
Are great -- get a review I'll.
You wanna speakerphone by any chance to no -- here as well as we can.
Chemistry -- -- like a little bit -- -- that's fine.
And and this is -- we would Rand Paul and probably with you.
On the filibuster about the issue of drama so we're what do you have you been watching this at all what your take them.
Yeah no I think it's I'm glad he's standing up pretty drone strikes have -- And and -- -- I'd like to think of it putting issue on the other sports imagine not.
I think -- -- other countries doing this we're not allowing ourselves be subject truth to this.
And yes either the action but we're perpetrating a fraud which.
It is our military intervention in the fact that mid -- every Cambodian -- -- happens abroad we we just make more enemies in his country.
Exactly and Eric Holder did not rule out in a letter to Rand Paul.
That opens and and also in fact talking on Capitol Hill to Ted Cruz he didn't rule out the notion of focusing on Americans are using Jones against emergent domestically which is frightening.
Lightning anymore that that is.
You'd like to rule out doing -- Some drone strike out not on a remote cabin in the mountains -- blew them -- in the -- I think you know I -- the government making decisions that.
They just fly in the face -- -- constitution.
Let's talk about the sequester I know you and I mean I totally agree on this but.
And we didn't expect that they won the country was -- fall -- but over time the cards are gonna cause problems are they not.
All I don't think they'll probably -- only in Washington get -- data -- -- cut.
To -- it worked then but on the dollar budget and can really not.
But that's just for now that's only in the first year 85 billion dollars and as the years go on more and more gets cut.
Well really I think that unless we get our fiscal house in order we're gonna we're gonna face that I -- after being number I didn't short term -- short term.
It -- we have an accommodative.
Central -- -- -- printing money and there are buying act that's every month of June of 85 billion what are those that -- But at a point that gonna -- the long term that is something that we have to address but not.
Balancing the federal budget I think we don't balance the federal budget we're gonna find -- well.
But in -- catastrophe and that's going to be bond market collapse not going to be really really ugly there's time to think that that there doesn't seem to be any will to do.
So among the things they say they're gonna cut border security would be cut by -- at 581.
Million dollars immigration enforcement 323.
Million dollars airport security.
Million dollars disaster relief 375 million dollars.
-- the none of this concerns you.
Well it didn't know what should equate it tore own budget the fact that you or I can't get by wouldn't two points or less the point for the first down -- lunch.
And if not I thought.
How is that it would be -- me in -- I think it I think it's ludicrous to say that the government chance -- -- when all about the individual -- to do that.
And has been that they aren't you can't if you can't get cheer that go out there and order you can't.
If you're here you're bankrupt.
-- -- -- just an increase in the or decrease in the increase why should that all these things have to stop or be diminished.
Because whoever -- when they're not caution whether caution now all these prices for these services must be going up bright.
All right exactly that's exactly right I mean there's there's automatic spending not increase that's built into the budget some -- really all the getting cut that just.
Much ado about nothing.
Well so the answer is what you don't care to sequester goes on it doesn't matter to you.
If indeed there is no solution to this he's in the -- Julie fine either way.
You know it look at their need to be deeper cuts they're need to be deeper cuts we need -- the federal budgets.
Entitlements need to be addressed.
You know entitlements are gonna go -- there's no if there's no control over what what it is we spend on.
-- Medicare and Medicaid it -- it open ended budget so.
And and don't have to be addressed if if we're gonna actually get -- that 4000 or.
We're all -- all love all the baby boomers gonna retire there's just that there's there is absolutely no sustainability in.
The spending that currently is in place really program.
Now what about cutting NASA for example there -- be cut.
By almost certainly true that billion dollars FBI gets cut by 480 million.
Federal prison system cut by -- in 55 million.
And so we we think there is telling us will be less secure nation more criminals on the street.
Not -- Yeah I think it's all political I mean Hezbollah scare tactics -- -- Designed to maintain the status quo when really this isn't scary at all -- what's scary is that we don't get this under control.
The only ultimate consequence in the ultimate consequence will be upon market -- bench.
And right now that's not that's not in the foreseeable future you know Wall Street record highs.
Look going to be that make their money by -- I predicting -- markets and with an accommodative Central Bank.
You know everything -- -- here were the.
So you don't want a deal to solve the sequester or in this question if you wanted to continue is that correct.
Well or is it -- have to go way beyond sequestered have to go to entitlement just have to go to addressing entitlements.
Social Security -- is eminently fixable.
But Medicaid Medicare look we're not willing to address those things we're gonna find ourselves I think without a country it's going to be an ugly being.
-- not when the inflation chicks didn't look this is boring to accompany.
All the stringent money.
We talked with Gary Johnson tell -- how you would fix Social Security than what would you do.
Well I would raise the retirement a -- I think that.
Raising the retirement age to have a you can have a very -- means testing.
You know what is that you paid in what he couldn't get trade outs.
-- simple simple practices I think just Social Security.
And an eminently fixable.
And so we -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well just that there are located at those security.
-- given a certain level of mental trauma.
How much -- you know -- you're able to draw more out of those security what you paid in raising the retirement age you don't.
Well security -- that wish that nobody with an even lived to be stick it to become media.
Average -- 65 the average.
Unlike expected the at bat I was actually less than what and so -- we're gonna check so using that they and not.
That same relationship or ratio -- today hey you know what you're -- need.
I don't know about ninety but but certainly -- higher than they -- fire.
Medicare Medicaid what do you do about those.
I think you've got to the ball both of them to the state and that you have to do block grant states the fixed amount of money.
I'll let a state that he laboratories of innovation -- best practice I actually come up.
Or or become the delivers.
Or how they're I think they'll beat them back -- look like that.
It'll get -- outlook Adobe the horrible failure that will get a -- -- 81 besides Mitchell all Washington have all the answers and -- and not what happened from the predicament that we're in today will be open ended.
-- breaking the bank like -- the -- you have no idea what a liability it you just pay the bill.
What are you -- do between now and the next presidential election.
Well I've got I think cranked up we never.
Try and try to remain a spokesperson for -- -- liberty -- It'll be thrown strikes were spending -- very quality or.
Marijuana legalization I'm -- out some things here you know.
Although legal or marijuana debate -- Washington you know I'll recreational use of all things.
Well why don't we speak prison actually compete you know you talked earlier.
President what federal prison -- -- -- It -- federal prison are there because the mandatory.
Thing and then it rob related.
I'm luck or bad short of them are equal but for the most part -- -- point out the bad choice between our criminal.
But you brought.
A remote Arctic is making actually.
-- you against the president.
Well you know I don't know -- I don't want a repeat what happened the last.
Well the last three years -- actual Michael.
I would let out of group.
You're good to go to really stop -- may have a commitment that would do we really.
-- and being on your show every ballot and on your show today included the time well spent but I have a lot of times you know wait didn't -- I sure don't want a repeat bet if I'm going to be value -- -- break it I'm not.
You know arms skiing -- and ready.
I wanted to roller -- -- but if you -- would you do it as a libertarian vs a Republican.
I wouldn't I wouldn't rule out anything at all that it is it is about a message and the message it you -- -- more abroad quash.
You we're -- aspect of the country I think -- fiscally conservative.
Expecting I think Republican law because there's social.
Agenda and -- -- -- shade out of social agenda but.
We gonna talk about.
Legislating a social agenda for it appears people I think that the -- -- -- Republican law.
So the Republican Party move closer to you they'd be in better shape and then you might even possibly.
Be more accepted by them than you were the last time around.
Well oracle will -- who is that spokesperson.
In the Republican party for social.
Difficult and servitude.
They could use one.
Half I thought you know.
Eleanor thank -- -- and it was -- always have to see you next time you're in New York.
Here you all thanks so much that is a -- a makes -- governor Gary Johnson Libertarian Party candidate for president when he twelve.
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