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Are far-right militant groups on the rise?

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Any impact segment tonight according to the Southern Poverty Law Center anti government patriot groups on the American radical right.

Reached an all time high and Tony twelve.

And the movement is becoming increasingly militant.

But a closer look at the group's research suggests that there report should be taken with a grain of salt.

Joining me now from San Diego to explain it is Bob -- he's a former FBI agent.

And author of the book of the last undercover and with me here in Washington Bob -- a spokesman for the federation of American immigration reform.

Which was named it a hate group.

By the southern poverty loss center.

First of all mr.

-- I'm -- -- for quite a long time then I know that you're not a hateful person.

And yet you're branded.

Hater by the Southern Poverty Law Center which I think has the imprimatur.

Of being a legitimate.

Organization.

That safeguard civil rights so what do you all do wrong.

That they have -- So literally nothing like this Southern Poverty Law Center masquerades as a civil rights group.

And they're really -- -- far left political attack machines they would they would label ham and cheese sandwich is an extremist threat.

If it helped juice their fundraising and fundraising is the name of the game and they're very very effective and it.

What some of the older viewers may remember the the -- off of McCarthy when one -- and with no checks and balances.

And labeled groups and individuals as Communists still some work most work.

But now this is not just one man this is one group a well founded operation.

That acts as judge and jury in the impose a sentence in the sentence is this that you -- to be barred.

-- -- -- If you are to be barred from the public policy announced they'll listen we disagree with you do so pull in other words if you or I believe -- border enforcement ear against amnesty.

I your traditional Catholic you might be of another Christian denomination -- -- -- -- -- news.

Limited government part of the Tea Party organization which brings me out to you mr.

hammer.

This seems to be I rank effort to shut down debate and the United States and to dominate political discourse and demonize good people who just happen to have a different point of view.

What have you found in -- examination of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Why haven't specifically looked at that organization although I'm familiar with it but I've seen real hatred in my 26 years as an FBI agent.

As you recall Laura I infiltrated nimble now here's an organization.

That -- -- one of its members killed a ten year old boy.

Several of its members actually paid me.

With the idea of having sex anal sex with eleven year old.

Always this is hate.

I've seen the aryan brother and I worked with them when they were hired by the -- to do their extortion where I -- black street -- so I seeing real violence and -- trying to.

-- -- -- -- -- And what you want you're -- from what you're hearing aid border enforcement group.

Other groups like the -- family research council that obviously believes in traditional marriage.

-- -- and strengthening families those are not the types of hate groups that are traditionally branded as Scotch and capable of heinous -- No it's not there and they're not hate groups -- they are.

Passionate about defending their positions.

All of which are legal that there was there is more emphasis for now on.

Yes but there's more emphasis increase in terms of criminality with the Occupy Wall Street and it was with the Tea Party movement.

They travel I'm bringing body yet -- going on inside the occupy camps they had staff they had burglary.

Violent stuff and -- -- -- how that really wasn't the source and found much investigation.

Any violent organization to -- it ought to be condemned but what makes this southern poverty law -- practice is so.

Audience is that there will take a legitimate organization like fair we I mean we've been advocating the mainstream public interest on immigration reform for thirty years.

Family research council.

They'll take two groups like that with whom they disagree with politically and then lump them together with truly despicable groups like -- isn't it a bit Aryan Nation and -- And they shut down your funding I think not trying to shut down -- funding -- run you out of business after they want they do not want a debate you on the issue that's my.

I've been lucky you know they have an agenda one is to stir the pot to create their own fundraising and be.

To shut down the debate to the extent that they have affected fair or any of the groups you know when we just -- we roll with a -- Is orwellian and you think of they hate that is routinely directed.

Toward Catholics and other organizations.

Because they happen to believe in a traditional outlook somehow they're haters they're terrible people.

They shouldn't be allowed to have a presence in and and any type of after school activity is a horrible people.

Then that you don't make no mistake there's a legal definition for what a hate crime has been a hate group is a concoction in invention of the political.

Lee laughed at southern poverty loss they don't want to debate that's my number one shut down -- -- idol makes and that's a lot my last day they do not want to talk and on and debate.

Gentlemen thanks so much and --

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