Should bin Laden's son-in-law be tried in civilian court?
Concern over justice for former Al Qaeda spokesman
- Duration 5:58
- Date Mar 9, 2013
Concern over justice for former Al Qaeda spokesman
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Well the news over the capture of Osama bin Laden's.
Son in law is generating a lot of heat from lawmakers who are upset that he's being prosecuted in federal court instead of a military facility.
So why -- -- date is being charged with conspiracy to kill Americans and in court yesterday he pled not guilty.
Joining us now to share their thoughts about this and some other political headlines Democrat.
And former Ohio congressman Dennis Kucinich along with former Massachusetts Republican senators Scott Brown gentlemen welcome great to have you on the show.
Mary thank you good to see you thank you.
We begin with you senator brown a number of lawmakers are saying that the administration's lack of -- wartime detention policy.
For foreign members of al-Qaeda and the refusal to -- interrogate them at Guantanamo Bay makes the nation.
Less -- you agree.
Well actually I do agree I was on armed services on the -- I'm presently serving I've been to -- I've seen KSM.
Obviously -- -- secure a barrier.
We should not be providing.
Lawyers to defend and we should be providing our men and women soldiers the tools to defeat them.
And that's pretty simple there is no policy they should be -- gitmo we should not be treating them as ordinary criminals are ordinary citizens and getting -- that they're not entitled to their enemy combatants and we should interrogate and pursuant to our applicable laws.
And then if in fact we are done within that we can turn him over the civilian courts but that they -- gonna have a dog and pony show in New York or any other federal district court.
And actually spend taxpayer money to to defend these guys is outrageous.
Congressman about trying this suspect in civilian court system do you think we may lose some.
Valuable intelligence -- -- he can simply lawyer up.
Well for -- I don't think there's any danger that the Obama administration.
Which has famously shown a willingness to execute.
On non citizens and considered and even a citizen.
Through drone attacks are suddenly gonna respect.
The US constitution when it comes to holding a trial but for the sake of the discussion.
There are two.
One is the Fifth Amendment issue.
Through grand jury with the -- Particulars of the infamous crime that has been committed and the second issue is is the issue in the six amendment.
-- the crime has been committed that's where the trial should be out the people of new York and of course United States suffered grievously.
And there is a a six amendment claim here that should not be dismissed -- easily and I'm very concerned that this administration.
Which has not -- no particular.
Fealty to the US constitution on matters dealing with -- criminal justice.
That it will just.
You know go right ahead with with a plan that some are supporting which is to say just have a military tribunal and let the people speak their piece and then hang him.
I don't think -- he is viewed or should be viewed as an enemy combatant.
Well you know that that whole thing about an enemy combatant.
Needs to be regarded.
Not through the lands of the administration's policies but through the immutable.
Principles of the constitution of the United States.
Look there is no one in this kind -- who who holds any brief.
For bin Laden or members of his family were involved in crimes this about the US constitution which is a much bigger concern here.
And particularly with an administration that.
Has not particularly been committed to constitutional principles which is what the debate about the drones were all about -- last week in the senate.
Let's -- some -- politics right now underground you believe the drama and the dire consequences over sequestration has actually backfired on the White House.
Now that it's clear the sky hasn't fallen with this 2% cut.
Buzz you know I voted for -- I voted for because we were told that we would be.
Obviously affected through our default we have potentially to -- to credit rating agencies would downgrade us.
We were told that these these select committee would actually get in there and and make sure sequestration didn't happen -- they failed.
They failed again and they're continuing in -- its failure of the administration.
Could have what's called transfer authority the ability to get into those specific accounts.
Delegate does -- tasks to be DOD into the secretary it's to the senators and ranking members the chairman -- ranking members to go in and actually.
Get the amount that they need and spread it over painlessly but the president has chosen not to do that he's chosen actually don't prove a point.
Try to point the finger Republicans and yes I think it has backfired.
What -- -- -- is -- -- dripping White House pushed it too far.
Yes in -- word.
You don't have the idea in my own way and -- and do you think this summer and hit it pulled back from they've learned a lesson.
Well this about the American people beyond the politics but we still have and inordinately high level of unemployment wages are depressed consumer spending is down.
We should be talking about how we move the economy forward.
And instead we're going into this fake kind of austerity what Wall Street is enjoying some -- -- best profits they've had over a period of decades.
And we're seeing -- -- to drop corporate profits up.
This administration which has been accused of being anti business as actually been very good to -- business climate.
And we've seen the bailouts which I voted against and these other concessions have -- -- Wall Street but frankly main street isn't making it.
That's where the focus ought to be and all this stuff about the fiscal cliff sequestration.
There's a disconnect between what's happening in Washington what's happening on main street.
And I'm saying we gotta start focusing on jobs and wages on moving the country's economy forward.
They're they're not doing that I don't -- I have been in this fashion -- always great talked about it you got them provocative comments there but we're running out of time but it's so happy to have you could join us with your thoughts on the -- appreciate it.