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And out of the growing debate over the capture of the son in law of Osama bin Laden al-Qaeda spokesman Salim on obligates.
Facing a civilian trial right here in New York City just blocks away from ground zero this after pleading not guilty Friday to one count of conspiracy to kill Americans.
Sources say the decision to bring him to New York was made at the highest levels.
Of the Obama administration that many lawmakers believe he should be shipped to get now to face -- military tribunal.
Here's New York congressman Peter King earlier today on America's Newsroom.
My concern right now though it's not so much the acquittal.
On the -- that that conviction at trial is the fact that we should be getting more intelligence out of them more information and that's why I think Guantanamo.
Situation room brought not -- -- argument is -- you know -- -- 22 page statement.
We turner ran for number he is he was in bin Laden's inner circle.
Answer me this is the type of information -- -- be just taken out day by day week by week we can find out against film and one of the blanks.
-- McFadden is senior vice president at this fine group he's also former special agent in charge at the Naval Criminal Investigative Service you might know that as and see.
I asked Robert thanks -- -- -- with us to -- before we launch into this particular situation.
You for thirty years worked.
Interrogating some of the worst human beings on the planet in places like Yemen and Saudi Arabia and one time -- now.
What was that like what if you need to be successful.
It was great privilege to have that opportunity to speak it interview some of the hardest of the hard -- al-Qaeda.
Like for example on the USS Cole investigation.
It's a very interesting and rewarding experience particularly -- you have the training and background that I had with my organization working with some of the best partners.
You can imagine -- business.
Maybe he gave John in these intense during commercial break I'm sure those interrogation techniques to be useful -- snicker if you are and television tell us about how you think.
Having this individual.
In our criminal court -- and may or may not impact our ability to get information front.
Well first so I was quite pleased to see that salute my level they brought to the US and and taken to the US district court.
-- over the place in the southern district of New York when it comes to track record in prosecuting terrorism cases.
I understand from open source reporting that -- high value detainee interrogation group.
Had access to have a place so.
It'd be interesting to see what information.
Was obtained in that 22 page statement from him what would you want and now.
I'd want to know.
Everything from the beginning going back to 2000.
Because he was among the last of the Afghan Arabs with bin Laden before bin Laden gave the dispersal order and late 2001.
I would like to know.
His travel routes how he got into Iran has has been reported.
Was -- under house arrest was a part of the modus operandi of Tehran.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well with a skilled interviewer and interrogator that has deep background about -- particular case I myself and partners have had terrific success and and getting that kind of information a lot of the -- down to motivations.
Tapping into those motivations and I would think in his case.
Quid pro quo cooperation of some kind.
What would that mean now what will we give up what kind of operation would -- would stage will be set -- well.
To make any -- sort of exchange.
Sure that gets into quite complex matters but.
Particularly in this case there's a tie in with the department of justice and US authorities.
There could be dialogue and discussion about that right from the beginning.
-- put even -- without the official what what's going to happen because it's so tough to tell down the road.
As an interrogator you can find the motivations of the individual quite quickly -- Think it described this as man as being a spokesman if you will for al-Qaeda there's been some questions about whether or not he was involved in the actual operations the strategy.
And the mission if you will.
-- to accomplish the terrorists and that -- -- an accomplished sure so is there any risk having him in a civilian court system.
That he would not be jailed for life because he would be seen as a spokes -- semi net spread the message but someone that was not really involved in the inner -- -- this terrorist group who you speak to their first is understanding the al-Qaeda structure of the existed at that time with the Shura Council controlled by bin Laden.
He was part of the the part of the council that was charged with communications -- propaganda.
That is a very potent message that al-Qaeda got out there that that the message of death and violence.
See you have no concerns to read between the lines of having him in a criminal court system because the people who need to get to him got -- are ready -- interrogators.
And now this is playing out in court what kind of precedent do you think -- sets and the future and and and what does it say.
About making sure that.
The worst of the worst.
Do meet their justice.
-- for the present I think it continues to.
Reaffirm our criminal justice system for both in the US in the world.
I think I'm in that camp that says it's the right thing to do.
US district courts have a terrific record you know almost 200 terrorism convictions since 9/11.
Just since 9/11.
And I'd also say that NYPD.
Greatest police force in the world well equipped along with the marshals FBI and others.
Interesting to get your perspective summoned from the inside it's been able that -- to face these -- And find out -- I'm sure a lot of interesting things leave that for another conversation Robert -- evidence that with us thank you for your perspective John.
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