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Revisiting it to their book tour a couple years ago.
Former secretary of defense William Cohen is here to my immediate left to also help me out my book -- against you get your outstanding basketball career.
And I jetlag.
Enough is -- and when he is that defense he wouldn't tell me any the secret that.
The Broncos it's I hear about that jump shot all the time in those three pointers but -- -- but you know enclave in -- Washington right -- you still play with the guys.
Did it played donors and the senate and house and senate and then when I went to a pentagon we had pick up insulin through four times a week.
-- that was dangerous because the minute you take off your suit you're you're at risk fragile target -- -- target rich and the don't have any respect -- just implement you know court.
You down and of course you work for president elect to jog -- this present likes to play basketball so if you're in -- -- have you played all the time that's.
-- and getting up there a little -- little long in the tooth right now but yeah I could -- -- so -- of what was it like.
Would you vote to you talked about the relationship of an interracial relations yes -- power couple as well.
Looking back -- the writing the book which is cathartic I guess.
And then promoting the people who did you did you.
Had -- affect your relationship first.
Well it was good for our relationship after the book was published during the writing of the vote -- goes pretty tough but what -- the high points is doing it with you wouldn't we did love in black and night.
The sub title was race religion and romance -- mixed couple Billick is mixed as well I'm blended.
Bill is half Jewish half Irish and not exactly the right -- -- -- Thought we don't know that.
Now I know that he kissed his mother isn't Jewish she couldn't -- by admits that -- and his father said OK be camped by Mets spent.
You can change your name take your mother's maiden name and -- -- it -- his that it dead my name is Colin and that's the name and keeping.
So thanks to -- keeping his name like it to be a princess because you know -- -- Cohen is the high priest lied and that I I'm I -- I'm yeah are you gonna get letters and or terrorize out of Atlanta the bells and I and I apologize.
The first up I got to ask you just -- for Europe.
-- -- play that's going on right now.
-- perfect blend of politics.
And you theatrical background.
Yes I hadn't planned to write a play as a journalist and I did treatment that you do on fox -- morning.
I did a morning show and bus stand -- did some work with Entertainment Tonight.
But it never thought of myself as a new writer playwright and Tim Miller tied -- Toni Morrison -- -- something happened didn't and and Washington when I was doing my memoir from rage to reason my life into America's.
On my -- -- very surprised that I would go back and tells the stories of growing up and apart -- America and America is syndicated.
And -- -- she originally to go back to that -- very success that don't bring all -- that happen to be unbecoming of utopia victim.
And I thought I'm not a victim.
Imus have a different.
I'm making this is a great country only in America can you come from the bottom to the top so they -- comic -- billet that it and I sit this out -- -- My history's important.
-- sample under all wood and frank who comes from people who struggled -- Say to emit till who is of my ethnicity.
They were both fourteen and fifteen years so when they -- the tactics that the Nazis in the white -- is used against each of them.
Where the same they just lived on different continents at different times with different ethnicity -- Different religions and so he civil -- to write it set to Camilla Blackberry minister making notes and what I found -- and were.
And frank and Emmett -- of these two -- martyrs.
Had a lot in common not just -- dying -- the way that people -- press has treated them.
The Jewish people in Nazi Europe couldn't be outside after dark.
They had to Wear patches disturb Davidson they can be separated from the chairman's.
We African Americans in this country in certain parts of the south couldn't be out after Derek he had sent generous when the Jewish people went to the theaters -- had to -- we have been about -- Black people had to sit in the balcony and finally it was their parents who survived them they kept their memories alive Otto Frank with Anne's diary.
And -- till Mobley leaving the casket -- so.
The world could see how badly her son was beaten and jet magazines -- and so when when the presentation came forward to close rate in the audience Colin Powell Madeleine Albright Michael Douglas amongst those there.
You know you you're naming the guest list that.
Was going to be there at the US holocaust museum in Washington DC.
-- well below 2009.
That performance did not happen.
Because now here -- the at the tragedy of ironic poetry.
A neo Nazi came into the museum.
Took out a shotgun and killed a black security guard in a Jewish shrine.
Excel is -- for the play was to take off it did not we did that.
Mostly the performance on uncle blitzers by newscast because it was news all over the world.
With the shooting in the museum -- and at the holocaust museum.
So three nights later we we did have -- the show must go on we did have the performance at ten George Washington University.
And a further irony is that it took place on what -- -- -- and Frank's eightieth birthday.
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