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Obviously watching this can make everybody think about their own spirituality.
Which is something -- -- that.
-- bell who is the author all of this book what we talk about.
When we talk about it called.
-- welcome thank you for being -- festival.
Great to have you hit a crucible just all on the conclave yes I'm as a team as a spiritual.
-- as a ceremonial -- how do you feel when you watch those couples billion feeling.
Burdened with the -- what they have to do.
Well first off I'm like everybody else is just fascinating.
Who will they pick.
And then you do like you're saying.
With the earlier -- about prayer like the responsibility.
For all of these followers and the future of this institution and that's a lot a lot on the -- you can almost see it you know when you're walking -- like this is a really really big deal for.
Over a billion Catholics around the world doesn't.
And and should it make all of us whether -- -- whether we're Catholic will not think more about bill.
Well one of the reasons I wrote the book is.
My experience -- -- we modern people we have this sense Jane Fonda talk about the reverence coming within her when you write a book about -- always looking upon -- but I thought says she's asked how about her spiritual rebirth and she's that I could feel reverence coming within me.
Yeah I think my experience is that lots of modern people -- Your first kid is born you have an amazing meal with friends -- out nature you hear a song and we have language like my soul with soaring oratory that's higher so we have the sense that there's more going on here and is a very popular view that says.
You're just a collection of synapse is neurons and -- is this is all just an -- and I think a lot of people.
But doesn't work as Smart and articulate it as that sounds it doesn't work and -- they go looking for explanations I think what's happening right now -- have sort of crisis.
Has a lot of people -- the go looking for explanations and exploration we uses god.
Dodd feels like a step back like I have to who take all that package that comes with it in the book I talk about the got a cycles will be what why do you think it feels like a step back for people.
I think institutions are inherently resistant to change.
Because institutions often if they're not careful become dedicated their own self preservation -- -- how do we keep this thing going as opposed to the original and also for example.
The Catholic church of the church in general.
Is a -- from the teachings of Jesus and Jesus is about becoming a more forgiving person a more loving person having less worry loving your enemies.
And -- can -- because it's easy for an institutional lose the plot it becomes so.
It it -- -- what you're saying used it to some extent this is the fault.
All of their religious institutions themselves for not keeping themselves relevant I think.
It's the it's the ultimate challenge of any institution why -- start -- what's our story of origin so it even look at this across you know government economics etc.
but I think you're seeing it right now a lot of religious institutions is.
We've lost the sense that we are supposed to be helping people find god -- just let's talk about finding god and all things which is.
What ever you do every day finding the divine depth.
And all of that and he can easily become about keeping the numbers up as you mentioned earlier keeping -- offerings coming in lots of politics.
Lots of things can command sort of hijack the original beautiful and yeah.
Your -- -- -- sort of advice.
If you like here is for those institutions.
Sort of take care of the substance in the numbers will then take care of themselves -- The reason that we grow and the reason that we're shape and the better people with somebody gives us a vision of life.
And in you and I see that -- we hear that articulating this I want that -- a shame condemnation that guilt.
Long term you might get results.
But it'll really -- your heart into the kind of person that you know you were created to be so -- Any church VA had to be -- the the smallest church in rural America are one of the mega churches that we also see yeah.
They -- what they should be doing not judging not condemning.
-- reaching out in in what.
Kind of spirit.
I would argue it Abraham Joshua how -- wrote this great book I -- ask for success I asked -- wonder who's that there's a wonder and -- to life.
-- as one of the things I go up over again and again the book is there's this almost wide eyed sense.
Of wonder and all that we have this gift of life -- and in life can -- that out of you.
I haven't cynicism skepticism you know -- your -- -- as essence if you aren't list of people that we.
Respect the most and we go to for guidance they're people who have somehow seen all of up.
Worse the world can give you and yet they have the sense like we have today.
Let's let's do something do it so I think an institution that's for the way to help people -- you spiritual leaders helping us.
And then you'll what are what about the did -- said you perhaps just have the both of their first child their experience a sense of Wanda.
Perhaps experience a sort of some sort of sense of spirituality.
What what how did they then proceed with those conversations with their significant others to find -- -- -- Yeah right right that's the power of the community and hopefully the power for -- book tour is -- Gather around with other people who have the same sort of intuition is an inkling in -- discussed and that you go to a house of worship may -- -- a book club unity.
For some people -- their backyard around the table the my experience has been we want to talk about the things that matter most and even the most hard in jaded.
Atheist my experiences -- you get around the table and you start talking and we want to talk about.
How to be more -- -- how to worry less how how to be how to have more peace.
These issues are as relevant as ever.
And the and the popped to those qualities all of that quality of life is through dot.
Yeah I mean -- -- Christians like come from the Christian tradition so -- I've followed Jesus and he.
Laid out this way of living that I find terribly compelling them and literally hundreds of millions of people on the world find it compelling -- -- I think what we're seeing now.
Is a sort of we we were what was he talking about because this seems like a bunch of things is talking about got lost.
Along the way hijacked by other things and so there's a lot of us who work hard to sort of get back to this beautiful.
Compelling message that the first people who heard -- -- -- good news which should say some about it.
Right and an end as we watch beat the cardinals that were as -- is the conclave gets on the way those kind of images.
Can't help but make people.
Think perhaps about spirituality and anything that does that -- annual view is good yeah great let's have discussions.
Excellent up all right and a great way to -- -- the discussion with yourself boy -- significant other.
Is to read -- book it is what we told to back when we talk about golf there it is on the screen.
That is available -- -- in the iTunes bookstore Amazon.com all over the place and even one of those old fashioned -- and mold of the so I was if you -- when I have there's a few left where.
You live I felt wonderful to told you thank you grace how -- I help my mother and find inspiration in that he would appreciate it.
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