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Yet one of the things that this next -- I think must be and I think cardinals recognize this.
He's a credible.
Representative of the church's position.
On sex abuse that the church has now had enough.
Of dealing with the problem of sex abuse.
In that there will -- will no longer be tolerated.
Within the context of the church he ends cardinal O'Malley.
Is a great candidate.
In regarded within that respect he has cleaned up three diocese.
That it had sex abuse issues that have been significant.
He is being criticized to some extent by some for being not the best manager.
So that perhaps is not in his favor but his credibility on sex abuses it's great -- And -- both the American candidates.
Is is it would have little regret to say there are two real possibilities cardinal O'Malley -- don't great.
Both are certainly charismatic characters told definitely come in different.
The ways and condolence -- -- in his exuberance.
Cardinal O'Malley is deep spirituality of humility all kind of come through radiate.
I wrote a novel about the election of Americans -- And probably that's where the election of an American as Pope will remain good hitting -- in the realm of fiction.
But you we just don't know we won't know until we know you know it's good -- -- I think as you guys watch this just all on a personal level.
As I thought -- -- of talk to my wife about this today and I you know where it will Catholics.
The identity of the -- of the next Pope.
And his actions will probably not make a huge impact on my life.
But at the same time I find this just the history the circumstance the drama.
Really exciting I mean what what are what are your personal feelings as you -- and wait and try to read tea leaves it Centre on outbound.
You can't look at it.
Well watching the cardinals walked in yesterday there is a kind of emotional quality to be two sitting there and watching this very important things in happening.
-- -- -- -- -- Less because of -- -- for me less because of this sort of intrigue and interest of at all.
And but more because here we see.
Representatives of the entire church from the whole world coming together who with the various concerns of the church hopefully weighing heavily on their hearts.
Coming together to pray.
And to seek God's guidance -- in finding the best person to the church into the future.
As they marched into the church they they chanted the names.
Of seats from throughout history from all over the world from Japan.
People who were who.
Who we didn't -- -- United States in the seventeenth century from France.
From from Uganda.
It it was manifestation.
Of the church as it is in all its diversity.
And to see that coming together that.
That's an emotional thing.
He's great in my -- how do you respond as you look to a list yes and it's not only -- contemporary universal church.
But it really.
It reflects the entire history of the Catholic Church from.
Through the present.
What the cardinals are doing you can look back the -- of the apostles the first election of an apostle Mathias.
Succeeded Judas who was.
Out of out of the picture by them.
It was done by election in Jerusalem and so this is really very much in that tradition also the history of Roman catholicism the fact of the church is headquartered in Rome.
The old imperial capital which became the spiritual.
Capital in the heart of the church.
As reflected in this conclave and the Pope is elected.
Ideologically and once historically by the clergy and the people of Rome so the cardinals represented the clergy.
Of Rome because they are pastors if you will of the title churches in Rome.
And the people participate when the new Pope -- brought out to be -- claimed and Saint Peter's Square that is really the acceptance by the people love Rome of this new bishop so.
That I think that fascinates people that that reflection of history that.
Stream of history that can really be traced directly back to the very beginnings of christianity can't.
Certainly fascinates me and I think what -- BR -- -- one's beliefs whatever -- Faith it is it it really is a fascinating and and it's -- you guys write and say deeply spiritual thing -- -- which.
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