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Well we're so early waiting for the white smoke right it's a little after 5 PM -- Vatican City.
And any moment we could see smoke coming out of that chimney at the Sistine Chapel this after cardinals go through their secret balloting to try to elect a new Pope.
Earlier this morning we saw the telltale black smoke -- meaning that there's been no new poll.
Elected yet that's earlier we don't like confuse you that's earlier shot.
Well we hope to seal what really but the world hopes to see is the white smoke meaning that there is a successor.
Big question about when that's gonna happen now actually McGuire senior fellow at the Catholic association as she joins us live from -- -- actually -- We last spoke in Washington DC we're talking about your trips around you're gonna be there for this.
This tells a little bit about what it's like what's that what is it like to be in Rome all this is happening.
You know it's an absolutely amazing time to be here.
And and the city is just full of anticipation and if you were to walk around.
-- I think it was James Joyce -- set about the Catholic Church here comes everybody and that's that's really what it feels like you're just seeing people from every country.
Holding and waving their flags on -- seeing creeps up all different.
Orders wearing different forms of attire and same thing goes for -- it just gives you a sense of the -- -- of the church and and how diverse this institution -- and and you know that Saint Peter's Square is just getting more and more packed it was amazing to be their last night for the first smoke.
I couldn't believe how many people were there for a smoke that was almost certain to be black in the rain.
Good timing actually -- British showing some -- but is that we have.
This square right now and it looks just as packed as it did last night people standing outside in the rain with Aaron Brown was just waiting and it really could be several hours -- -- before we see the smoke in my -- in the next.
Next hour -- so could be you know.
A little bit -- longer wait we have heard that the longer it takes to select a new Pope.
The more likelihood it could be surprise in -- surprise meaning it could maybe.
Be an American Pope why is it that the longer.
We wait there's some more our thoughts and maybe that could happen.
Well you know I think if you look at the election of Pope John Paul the second he really was a surprise to the world.
And his was one of the longer conclave so.
You know there's there's no way to really predict anything even the smartest Vatican watchers just have no way to predict what's what's going to happen.
But you know this is an interesting conclave innocent in the sense that there's not really what people are referring to as a front runner.
Whereas with the last conclave I think many people did think that then cardinal Ratzinger was going to be chosen.
And he was actually elected right about this time with the last conclave so.
Again you know we could see smoke any minute and that would mean that the fourth vote was actually conclusive but.
I think people are starting to think that as the clock ticks -- they're probably going to be moving to a fifth vote.
Which would mean that we probably won't see any smoke until sometime around seven -- -- wow interesting -- remembered as a good reminder to our viewers at.
They take 2 votes in the morning and 2 votes in the evening.
So we're going to be watching to see.
If and when.
-- -- -- That's an outcome that of the chimney passing -- going to be hanging out with us for the next hour we appreciate the time your expertise in your your view from the ground there.
I actually think you so much.
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