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Document set dark horse candidate sold out all those who won sort of -- -- -- necessarily at the very beginning of this.
I -- -- -- John Moody who is what our executive vice president -- has written about them Pope John Paul as you probably know.
He mentioned to me.
And I'm gonna -- the name here Jorge Mariel cobbled.
But -- Leo -- of the Argentina.
As an older than that Greg had talked about before and but might be might be almost a stop gap opens somebody who would be willing to sort of carry out the hard look of reform.
And then double hostile -- to follow with what -- view of that.
So well two things I would say about -- go Leo he was talked about last time as a possibility and so I think his name is very much a name that says people have.
Be talking about quiet privately you in Rome.
One of the things that that is attractive about him is that he would be the first Latin American -- and that I think recommends him.
-- This Greg did you think Canada and and real Thompson Laura and I so.
Canada that this -- oh I think so probably -- a slightly later stage that we are right now another -- -- -- ballots and I think we are we might be looking at that a tournament.
One of the names very.
Candidate the one who knows that if you look over the roster have of the cardinals.
-- cardinal Robert Sarah and African from the country of Guinea who was once the youngest bishop in the world in his thirties.
Goes back a ways.
But he has other qualifications to pastoral leader -- -- -- The administrative experience that they're looking for so it could be that someone like that in the background now could emerge on the 68 ninth tenth ballot if it if it goes that -- back.
General what do you think.
The Catholic Church needs.
Most if you can split it as easily as that are simply is that a reformer horrible pastoral Pope and some but it would somebody more committed to every poll just -- -- Well from.
-- what the church needs most.
I don't see those two things this is you two weeks of life.
Let me say that and I think what the church needs most is somebody who credibly.
The gospel of Jesus Christ who represents -- By virtue of his personality.
And by virtue of his ability to communicate with people.
What Catholics believe that is to say that god is love.
That god became human.
In the person of Jesus Christ in order to show his love for humanity.
I think that's what the church -- things.
It it doesn't appear that anything happens with the any great degree of the urgency within the Catholic Church Greg.
Is there an urgency to -- to the need to reform the internal politics.
In the Vatican or is -- outreach.
Not a more pressing.
Task for the next book the of the urgency within the church is sort of a metaphysical.
Urgency something that has always existed beneath.
These -- the -- parole functioning of the church because it is as.
-- has pointed out its its conveying the the message of Jesus it's conveying the the gospel.
As a teaching of the church who were there -- -- 2000 years old so.
I think the cardinals.
Are part of that system part of that tradition lower -- -- And so perhaps they don't yes feel that the urgency that we do in wanting to -- -- report about the news of the moment.
But I think there's an underlying.
Discomfort among Catholics and all ranks -- an across the across the globe.
That there does need to be some.
Some change and that this leadership decision.
Will really signal the direction of the church for the next decades the next generation.
As it has perhaps not since maybe John the twenty -- election in 1950 -- or some of their great historic.
Elections and Gregory in the late some.
Certainly six century phone signal that kind of change in the church.
Do you do you -- -- -- okay you first Jim that the the cardinals would really like somebody who will be around.
For at least a decade is as Greg says did that because when you look at that the Argentinean -- -- -- just to have -- -- -- 76 and that's it.
And fairly advanced in years to stick around for a long time and not feel the -- is on it.
As as -- as it did have.
It's my suspicion that they would prefer a candidate -- slightly younger -- -- -- mid to late sixties.
Somebody would be around for ten or twelve years but.
Things as the votes become.
More difficult however as the -- outcome becomes more difficult to two pinned down.
That they move to -- -- an older candidate electrically.
There's I had a great look what -- day on the choice of the ability of some of the energy and spiritual energy physical energy who can project.
At least a measure of -- -- if not young himself and John John Paul the second was able to do that he was elected at a young age 582 but you know throughout much of his pontificate he was able to six.
Conveyed vigor in that -- image for the church of the Church On The Move.
And the church of youth tomorrow.
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