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No doctor Rand -- the junior senator from Kentucky.
-- -- Doctor -- a graduate of -- university school of medicine.
With a practicing ophthalmologist and Bowling Green for seventeen years by the way I found fascinating doctor Paul did you do pro Bono eye surgery to Kentucky and need to care even to this today.
And that you're defending the rule of well and I clinic that provides eye exam to surgery to needy families in an individual.
Just two weeks ago did some surgery and I think in about two more weeks we have five cataract surgeries that out.
I think a lot of people know him under the gets underneath also how you feel you get some sleep you.
Did my voice is coming back Buffy still hard for each dependent upon converse alone.
-- love when you said that maybe should've had a catheter there may be I would have given him more time on the stay out.
And what I really -- Allen was not a doctor and I know -- those get put in and I decided I didn't want us.
-- -- Listen congratulations I -- the people on both sides of the -- you and I have talked a few times about there's -- I think what you did was the right thing I said it is a liberal Democrat.
And congratulations for getting the attorney general to finally say what needed to be sent.
Well I think it was an important question and the reason we kept asking is that -- we first asked the CIA director.
Can you kill an American on American soil his response was.
We want to optimize secrecy and we want to optimize transparency.
And a I -- he's not that was his entire response and so.
I dealt briefly look I'm not a lawyer but I've seen -- -- lawyer shows on television to know that that's a non responsive answer.
And that answer went on for a month and a half.
Until -- they finally sit well.
Yeah under extraordinary circumstances.
But that also was -- our question because we were more concerned that the fact that a lot of the drone strikes overseas.
Are not extraordinary circumstances are circumstances were no combat is involved.
And I was concerned support that substandard I sure wouldn't want the standard were using overseas to be used here in America.
So he did say that that the president does not have the authority to kill an American not engaged in combat.
But if that person were engaged in combat there will be a different story correct.
Yeah and the thing is is that I think most of us agree to that so for example of your -- robbing a liquor store.
And you've got a gun and you come out your danger the police can issue -- without giving you Miranda rights or without due process or trial.
Same way if you're flying a plane into the Twin Towers if you're committing an act of aggression and you're in the process of killing people.
You can be deterred -- lethal force most the time of the United States so diva police and FBI.
Rare occasions have been involved in a plane or something the military would be involved but it would never involved.
Some of the circumstances that seemed to be occurring overseas where we kill people in their house.
In there bedroom and there were an arrest stronger walking on the side of the -- in cars.
Not engaged in combat that's another story and really needs to be debated as well but the thing is is that not a standard that we can accept inside our country.
Why do you think it took so long to get clarification on that and that didn't come out and saying.
What should have been sent initially.
I think presidents Republican and Democrat are infected with the disease and it's -- -- -- power.
And it's not really -- in a bad way diseases the disease in the sense that what is a bad thing but it's.
They think that I'm a good person and so this power gravitating to me is not a bad thing.
They don't -- power in the abstract and actually -- on the abstract as being a bad thing to look too much power gravitate to one person.
And I also see -- -- Madison saw when he in the Federalist -- said.
That we wouldn't need these laws -- men were all angels see losses -- be necessary for we don't collect angels.
I have the problem when bush to certain things I didn't like and I.
Have the same problem when this president does things that are like because the next time when the for the next president -- may not like.
And I mean I trust as much gets the same power.
I'm not -- like it as -- Well no what I said in my -- is that a lot of things but one of the things -- said is that I had.
A great deal of respect for the candidate Barack Obama and why didn't vote Foreman didn't support him.
One thing I did respect and admire was we stood up for civil liberties he said that America.
Is it should not be represented about torture that's not something that we should do is a civilized nation.
That we -- get warrants before a cap people's phones.
And so it it seems inconceivable that same candidate would now want to assert the right to use drones in this fashion.
It was inconsistent and he may have always had this position.
But I think the presidents don't like to divulge or admit that they don't have a certain power so we really -- forcing the issue.
Did getting to admit that he doesn't have that authorities I think it was a good step forward for those who think the president presidential power should be limited no matter who's in all.
We're -- with senator Rand Paul of Kentucky what was -- thought process that went into your deciding to do this filibuster.
Well I walked in -- national recognition night you know we we kind of thought that we might do it if if if the time was available.
What usually happens is before his guarded by the majority party cannot be physical -- they guarded about putting legislation on the floor continuously.
So for example for the last six months or maybe even the last two years I don't know the forever being open.
Just happen to be opened that morning and there were no limitations on debate I got recognized.
And I think they thought -- speak for awhile that's kind of what I thought at first I'll speak for an hour -- and then I kind of got going out and.
Her role was while it was happening that you decided to open ended at that and it wasn't planned in advance.
-- -- -- is somewhat plan and event in the fact that we have talked about debating for a lengthy time on drowned in and we got a couple folders together and really that morning before I came in -- spent about two hours.
-- over my information at home before I came in to be prepared.
We didn't know before would be open or whether we'd be allowed to actually be recognize -- long as we wanted to.
And so it was in the back of my mind but it wasn't like oh hey call everybody we're gonna Lester.
We didn't know until that moment we walked in one and then we didn't also know once I got -- hello -- last you don't know.
How long you can last without heaven to -- you know run to the restaurant.
You have got further if he needed to did you -- more than thirteen hour.
You know I think I could have gone maybe even another hour to that -- needed to be -- -- at a point of resolution to.
You know wasn't there just to break a record I don't think -- made it 24 -- -- which would have broken Strom Thurmond's record.
It's C I think he was cheating a bit so.
He is apparently going into the cloakroom and and relieving himself asked.
I didn't think that would look good on national TV they have TV in his day Serena.
-- ready -- come up with that much stuff to -- Without repeating yourself.
We probably if you had much -- thirteen hours they're probably -- and repetitive steps.
What I tried to do after awhile when I got tired and I spoke my peace for several hours with a lot of new information.
Then I would look at the gallery and you know the gallery turned over that every thirty or forty minutes I kind of pretended like there were in new audiences.
It was so my best stuff -- -- my lines and -- and again with my best stuff to look you can -- can't -- my -- -- traditional time and I think that was different than some some filibusters in the sense that.
I think when Harry Reid did nine -- she read from the book that he had written.
Think Strom Thurman read the constitution and the declaration of independence and various other things.
Which is OK but I I -- really trying to stay on subject because.
I think there's an incredibly important issues and it.
Near the people who have been fighting for us and who volunteered to fight for our country.
They believe they're fighting they go overseas for the bill of rights and I think it's wrong for them to come home and find out well guess what.
Because we're afraid of shares were suspending legal right to our country.
And -- literally some of the Republicans on my side think.
That the war has no geographical limits so -- Brendan and so does the president's official position.
But what they say there's no limits they believe that the laws of war should apply the United States.
And that really just bothers me because the law for basically means you don't get a lawyer you don't get due process you don't get a trial by jury.
And I can understand that if you're a battlefield you're shooting at Americans -- -- ask you do you want an attorney we Killian.
You know battlefield but -- for home and you're communicating with someone by email and -- -- -- relative that lives in the Middle East room.
I think that's what has to accuse you of something they can't just -- -- that person Middle East as a terrorist therefore you're associated with terrorists and he has an al-Qaeda card.
And I try to point out that nobody has an al-Qaeda card.
You know everybody now is called al-Qaeda in the whole world anybody committing any kind of violence against -- government.
-- considered to be al-Qaeda.
Information secret to -- -- I cannot contest.
Whether some -- overseas is we can't prove yea or nay whether -- terrorist.
But given that information if you come -- communicated with -- because there were related to you.
Is that enough to kill you with the drone or indefinitely detain him.
And -- President Obama signed the indefinite detention with the same sort of logic about a year ago he says I don't intend to detain anyone and that that just frankly isn't good enough.
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