Power Play 3/14/2013
A slow, painful climb down on White House tours. Plus CPAC and the GOP's most prominent voices
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- Date Mar 14, 2013
A slow, painful climb down on White House tours. Plus CPAC and the GOP's most prominent voices
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And that is Carl Cameron Fox News correspondent.
Preparing to talk to regular television.
More significantly though he is there a -- -- the conservative political action committees annual meeting.
That they had here in DC.
As the right wing -- itself about.
Trying to figure out what's on the docket for the coming year and this is power play and I and Chris -- -- now look Internet.
You're gonna see that visual lot more tomorrow because we will be broadcasting we will be Internet broadcasting from -- -- and we won't have a coterie of important conservatives who talked to you.
About what's going on in their movement and what they think is very significant but what's going on there today that as real significance as you might call it the first event in the 2016 Republican primary as back to back speakers Marco Rubio and Rand Paul.
Both US senators and both very likely presidential contenders for 26 team.
Tried to get the conservative base on their side as they move closer and closer.
To the time when people actually start instead of -- running real running so what about that we'll talk about their chances of what the -- wants to hear from them.
We will talk about whether.
-- FA organizing for action -- -- its critics call it organizing for access.
Has there wraps -- their meeting.
To try to advance president Obama's general talk about whether could actually be effective at doing anything more than getting people with big fat -- bank accounts to write checks to the president.
We will discuss that and we will have a the member of congress with you today Jacqui -- lower -- Republican from Indiana who had.
Arguably the most interesting exchange with the president during his visit to -- Republicans yesterday.
Which yes why can't the federal government balances budget like a family and the president had an interest in response to talk to her about that we'll do all of those things -- you delighted by the way and by the way we will have them a minute with Vladimir Putin today that's very special that I think you'll enjoy.
But you probably.
Even though he will keep his shirt on he promises throughout the entire segment.
You're probably not enjoyed any more than you will hear it for barbecues that he is the managing editor of this bill the newspaper of record.
It's Chris Marco Rubio.
Popular is pretty well -- -- he's working on immigration package that.
Conservatives -- exactly confused about the track but he's profile is high and he's a great speaker.
Rand Paul -- is had a big couple weeks this is giving him the speech immediately after.
Marco Rubio is definitely aside from the folks at C -- That their interest in seeing what he has to say as a possible candidate.
-- -- that's right and I think PM what the Republicans seemingly trying to pick up the pieces after the 2012 election and an and you write this is that.
The beginning of the primary process Marco Rubio is a very likable guy he's been giving speeches on a range of issues I think to.
To broaden his.
In a support within the GOP now this -- the difference between Mitt Romney who's who is gave espy's last late last year exe act which recently severely concerned severely conservative -- -- Canada.
A mistake there but.
At the same time you know the right trust -- -- And so if he goes to them so far they do so -- did so now obviously the immigration thing he's gonna have to sell he's a very good speaker but -- finding his rises is -- he's actually been more open about.
Running for 2016.
And he's definitely.
All -- -- he's going to be running so.
I think we're the party is is it more libertarian.
I think you've seen that this is not that that the party of George W.
Bush and it's also moving away from from John McCain as well.
And McCain and -- obviously have done and it.
Over the last couple weeks so.
I think it's a fascinating but who was gonna steal this ship you know -- rubio -- -- when he was running against John Crist he stole the show yes and then he just he.
You know crash -- and it was.
Rubio -- he was running as the total answer yet he was attacking.
-- eight do they call them rhinos Republicans in name only when he was attacking Charlie Crist.
And saying I'm the real conservative this guy's -- Rubio has to temper.
What he's saying now more as the only senator to somebody who is trying to keep this -- And trying to keep things on the straight and narrow so that he can actually advance legislation yet for.
Ran although he's got a freer -- -- fire the -- right.
Oh Canada and movie -- it's amazing how he -- address immigration and mean this is that they east of the base of the Republican Party itself.
If he talks about immigration he might get a lukewarm.
Where Rand Paul I I don't think is gonna go -- that issue and you know the chances are -- always going to be.
Get get a very very strong reaction especially because he had picked up 50000 Twitter followers -- after the speech so it is it's going to be sassy but we could see someone else do the -- beating you never know that's what that's what's so -- Nazi.
That's -- people should just watch the Fox News channel's coverage of this because it will be so if you're staying and revealing -- -- for.
The big prize in the Republican Party -- If you can merge if you can meld sort of this more libertarian attitude.
That I was convinced in the Tea Party.
Win this social conservatism.
That has been present and important in the Republican Party since the late seventies but certainly in the Reagan era that social conservatives stepped to the forefront.
And they're there so for.
Who is Catholic.
Rick Santorum said he could be done but Marco Rubio hasn't shown he has.
That degree of social conservatism that he is so fired up about issues about -- -- marriage and abortion threat.
Rand Paul though.
As -- evangelical Protestant though his brand of conservatism doesn't take as much interest in social issues he has a chance to talk to those -- yet.
No absolutely it's so it's it's also -- -- note that that Rand Paul has actually been playing the GOP game where his father did not.
His father did not support Mitt Romney for president.
A -- on Fox News said.
He supported Mitt Romney he's also working closely with Mitch McConnell Mitch McConnell did not want landfall in the 71 another Republican two win that primary some years ago so.
Blu-ray and Paul is doing the things that he has to do but he also doesn't want to be viewed.
As an insider but he does have to form a coalition that is broader than his father's though they were at that and are avid supporters and he's getting a lot of them.
He needs to have a a broader base.
Well here's -- I'd say if you were part of a large evangelical church in Iowa.
Be on the lookout for senator Paul to be making an appearance in your neighborhood soon.
About Cusack we thank you for appearing in our neighborhood today we thank you very much thank -- -- okay Internet.
Let's get to your chats let's talk about what I wrote about today let's have more -- some fun here on the dominant Internet political telecast of the 1130 half hour.
-- -- Politics a lot of musicians are tough.
Sometimes are scared about making right decisions and they're particularly scared because they're subject to.
Pressure from special interest groups and well financed.
Organizations that may be pushing in a different direction.
Was President Obama talking to his special interest group and well financed organization about the dangers of special interest groups and well financed organizations and this is powered by the president was talking to big donors.
To his sort of permanent campaign on the extension.
Of his 2012 in 2008 campaign organizations that will now remain constituted to help sell policy issues.
They were there at the saint Regis hotel which is -- -- it's very close -- that's very anti.
And people like Google executives and others were there to spend little time the president last night.
So he can't raise money there's no question he's sitting president of the United States he can raise money but can he be effective -- -- as a cool.
You know who knows and I can guarantee you that they know.
-- -- he is the CEO of the Mellman group appropriately enough but he is a democratic strategist and a guy who understands what moves public opinion.
-- a -- he's -- former Press Secretary congressman Roy Blunt.
And he is a Republican strategist.
And welcome gentlemen thank you are okay now.
-- the president is doing something -- match slap on.
The other day this week and I said why didn't you guys -- that this is a good idea you guys were hanging around with Georgia get reelected president you didn't do anything with that except talk about says security for six weeks.
The president is doing something with it.
We know that he's going to be able to raise some money but can he actually turn this into an effective tool to get stuff -- It's good to -- effective tool the question is will be able to move Republican votes.
In the congress know right now we have a situation for example in this budget.
Where we know only one in five Republicans stick with the Republican congressional position most Republican voters say we -- a mix of tax increases.
And and budget cuts but that's not where Republican members of congress are so the question is can this organization others translate.
The views of even Republican constituents to move their members of congress that's good question members of congress ultimately have to answer today Latvian tied to their constituents.
They want to be -- different place but the organizational help make sure they know what their constituents think.
Amos I wrote a column.
I did -- ever come because that's your sanity I know you could do.
-- it it it is that talks about the president and that closure of the White House tours and all these problems but.
And if you follow me -- settlement Twitter you can have that -- haven't done that you know it's like you and but.
In in the column I I talk about.
This group may be most effective.
In moving democratic votes more so than Republicans because.
Republicans -- analysts and -- -- members who were tweeting them.
But if you're a Democrat.
And you're and the president trying to get you to do something you have to listen to his people right.
Absolutely I think they're gonna be very effective we saw this in the last campaign how effective -- they could be.
But I do think a story that we're starting to see -- -- what does it do for the Republicans.
You're seeing Republicans organized from the RNC today aren't seated in our CC they're bringing in data experts to bring -- experts -- so there are -- it's really -- -- the Republican side.
That's a true fact and you know the the thing about.
Political tactics and we saw this happen.
So there was like a minute where the Republicans were really good about using digital and online they they actually sort of -- beat Democrats there and then Howard Dean after the Howard Dean explosion you know -- Democrats got.
Got it to a real quick.
And did it so there's.
And ratcheting effect.
That takes place in political tactics do you think -- that this is the new standard for the future for presidents that they keep intact something like this.
Well I think there's no question about it and look we saw a situation for you know really almost a decade were in direct mail.
Republicans were far ahead.
Democrat -- many townhouses in Washington DC were purchased.
Fifty SFR exact record that is exactly yes and so you know the truth is there's a leapfrogging and you know.
Perspective and give -- right now.
Democrats have a big advantage on technology Republicans understandably want to catch up.
But the real question is and what you do with those techniques do you keep them around with these organizations to make sure that you can influence policy and I would assume it to both sides are gonna wanna continue to do that over time.
The my take is being quite a wiser -- today it says maybe if you sent that out what you wrote -- and talk about it.
-- -- noted but also my thanks as that's.
With all the money that Obama can raise how -- he get his donors to keep to raise the money to keep the White House -- is open.
And -- is for the president.
He does find himself noted in an interesting situation because by talking about small sums of money.
Relatively I know 74000 dollars is a lot of cash in and that I know the relatively small amounts money -- -- the federal budget where things like.
Staffing the White House to worse when you start playing argument small things any money that you spend.
They'll fly out -- tomorrow to give a speech about global warming and and alternative energy technology.
He's put himself -- a little bit of a pickle -- That's right absolutely and if you look it's not just a White House tours that are close my wife works in the senate and they're having to get to the office almost 45 minutes earlier they're -- seek to question -- None of the torture -- right right right we sustain their lines are out you know in that that the machine the president fly around he's going to the fundraisers and wonder if there's carbon tax credits for his global warming speech.
I don't know but it's really a mixed message they're stopping White House source the keep congressional staff out -- called in the line and I really wonder -- to try to.
Three misses a free -- -- mark yeah.
I don't I don't think too many people out their Internet feel bad that -- congressional staff I don't know but I'm sure she's a lovely season while I was and I love to -- you're -- inside exactly but the reality is these.
-- -- dumb about these budget cuts -- -- that 10% from everything right and so you don't there's a lot of choices here you got to get 10% from the white Astoria etiquette.
From the -- from the state -- security.
Well -- he's gonna cut that 10% to.
Yeah I'm gonna see where where is not going.
But that's the problem and everything gets cut by the by the same amount -- no rhyme or reason as to what's -- Smart what's the what's it -- cut.
That's why we should -- an agreement here that'll raise some revenue and make smarter cut that we're gonna have an agreement looks very much like.
-- -- And federal outlays for the remaining six months of the federal fiscal year.
The Internet knows that all of this fight about sequestration has really been about -- fight over continuing resolution to fund the government in the absence of a budget.
Starting on the 27 of march take them until the end of September the Republicans have passed one.
It preserves the spending levels from sequestration.
But makes it less arbitrary they have put in things.
Amos -- senate Democrats now are mowing their their counterproposal.
That they're going to make.
But were running out of time as we get later into march what do you think is the Republican version got to stand or be -- Why I think if you watch what it with the speed -- three the president Obama's going to Capitol Hill you know if we can get past CC frustration -- -- and actually.
Gillis a big issues that's what everybody in America wants Washington to do.
You know corporate tax reforms on the table -- arena having that discussion as we have to deal with these three month -- jobs every single time it becomes a fourth quarter crisis here again in Washington.
-- right that -- what do you think -- is the republic how how close -- the final result on this.
-- you don't act that I think remains to be seen but I think the -- you will be fairly close obviously but at the end of the day -- the real issue is do we do we have a budget.
And Democrats and put forward a budget that makes equal amounts of cuts and revenue increases Republicans have put forward a budget.
At least a house Republicans have put forward a budget.
That once again says we're not gonna guarantee people Medicare benefits I didn't hear your argument that this is these these -- peek -- -- -- budgets that are being passed by us through that house.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- and -- was a Republican there -- so it's really a good -- real budget if it -- is unlikely to be passed because Republican -- for the revenue but it is that it is it is -- Democrats don't destroy -- it is -- and -- that both parties feel liberated to do whatever they sort of want to do in these budgets knowing that there is no chance it will become -- they might work more.
Carefully if they if they thought that that -- all right -- that tomorrow senate Democrats are gonna say you know what.
Let's just do this thing whatever you got ascended over here he might have composed of different document right now I think you're right you know I don't think some Democrats are gonna say we're gonna repeal obamacare that's -- for -- -- gonna do.
Well sort of -- sort of made a sort of disincentive them from the beginning it's right but but the reality is I think that is his policy.
And the democratic budget is the democratic policy here so.
Did there and what Democrats are saying is there is a way to achieve deficit reduction.
Substantial amounts of spending.
And in closing -- tax imposed increase revenue.
Are Republicans are saying is we don't want to close any loopholes we want to destroy Medicare we wanna cut education -- gonna cut -- medical guys come up with a better slogan than we wanted to strike -- actually does not gonna that's not going to work for my last -- guys are quick.
Are we going to see.
A deal that.
Takes us in -- Mean you know this -- you got thirteen months from the -- of the federal fiscal year until mid term elections which is the next opportunity for voters to break the deadlock.
-- we -- seen before we get to the end of this fiscal year deal -- that takes us where everybody would like to go which is to be.
Budget transported beyond the next election I'm.
Absolutely hope I mean I hope we can do that because there's some serious issues that we should be sitting -- -- having discussions about.
We need to stop this every ninety days ever crisis every two months it's -- gonna get into it at the last minute ram something through so I'm very hopeful and I think we well.
It is remarkable -- to think that now a year Europe budgeting constitutes like it did fiscal deal you think that that big fiscal deal -- possible.
I think it's relatively unlikely you know for the reasons you were suggesting there just isn't fundamental agreement -- But it definitely fundamental disagreement right between Republicans and Democrats on the direction to go here.
I heard one person on -- say -- chances were 5050 another senior person stated James were zero I think it's at least somewhere in that neighborhood actually say probably close to zero.
That there is a real live agreement here -- Our.
Pessimistic but hopefuls they -- -- have.
Patriotic realist let's call Olivia got 800% hopeful but 0% -- -- -- patriotic -- both gentlemen we thank you very much for making time for us today -- Internet we're gonna take a quick break.
But when we do we come back we have lots of special -- in the third segment today.
So stay on the edge of your digital see -- stick around.
And white smoke here.
It's very redevelopment.
-- -- And that was President Obama saying he enjoyed talking to -- Republicans on his visit to capitol yesterday he's back today.
Talked senate Republicans.
And this is powered by now perhaps as I said before one of the most interesting exchanges that we've heard about from inside.
With the president and house Republicans.
I was about.
When the president was asked why the federal government couldn't balance its budget like a family black American families are forced to the president said America is not a fan -- And who asked him that would you like to now what here's the answer -- -- he she is the Republican congressman from the great state of Indiana congresswoman welcome.
Thank you so much -- -- the opportunity.
So -- the president says we're not this is not a family this is a country.
But he has a point -- -- that.
-- your family can't print money.
Well yeah -- and you know I had chance to ask him.
You know is it really responsible for the federal government to be trying to -- primary balance tonight for the interest.
And I said you know where I come from the state of Indiana there's a lot of women that are here at the household balance or to carry the checkbook and I -- -- out.
-- were making mortgage payments and Indiana like I am we pay the interest.
When you know people who are working three jobs and they're making their credit card payment.
They paid the interest and you know that man my -- to him why is.
But you know we have to be all in this together this isn't this really is about we're talking about budgeting -- we're talking about dead.
This is about moms and dads this is about kids.
It's about senior citizens we're gonna rise and fall together as a country depending on what we do with these issues as I thought it was a valid question.
Given the fact.
-- he's been on record talking about the fact that that we are failing in this country and -- you know we do these things together so I was just given them a chance.
And not hold accountable on that and Leslie is right now inside.
What was his god and in general when he was talking to you guys who is did he did he seen what were we were able to glean from the way he talked.
-- -- -- -- I think that I think he was trying to she is legit and real may be as he possibly -- and and you know trying to talk about things that would that would unite people I think he was very clear and I think the American people are gonna see the result of what he talked about.
Which is that there's going to be -- clear difference and how we proceed on this issue the budget.
And I think that when people see the house budget that we passed last night late in and that evening night hours.
Vs what the senate is going to do is gonna come out with -- even as you know we have to clear choices and one is fighting for the lower class which is what we're doing.
And one is going to be more -- is -- more spending as usual.
I think that you know the American people are gonna see exactly.
Where he stands on these issues and exactly what he was trying to convey to us.
And I think that you know it was an honor for me I'm grateful.
I had chances and never represented the state of Indiana why the strongest states in the union because we -- the -- -- decisions and we balance our budget.
We did a very common sense way have a triple -- bond -- were stronger than the federal government.
So I think -- the messages I was elected today delivered to the president was effectively delivered yesterday.
If you were from Elkhart Indiana you know or are ready but if you don't there she is congresswoman Jackie -- -- congressman we thank you.
Think he's all right.
Okay Internet -- Jonathan Hunt is up next but we have a special installment.
The great Sasha.
-- -- -- -- in New York -- for us the best images of Vladimir Putin as he does the weirdest things I don't ask me -- -- like to do -- -- much but I -- he's meeting with -- golf you know and -- a -- oh yeah.
The the former action movie star and the action movie star of the Russian government are talking about restoring some old Soviet era style fitness programs.
And comrade -- found some time to hang out.
With -- of golf perhaps an unorthodox choice for fitness whatever and -- -- not making a big deal out of it it's fine.
I'm certainly not I'm not -- had I -- yesterday okay.
Before we get Charles how about some power points.
Our points today dispensable.
PowerPoint -- southern cross now.
The Vatican did the cardinals at the Vatican have selected the first non European hope.
In many hundreds of years it is no coincidence.
That the the person that they chose who is now going to get to be Frances the first -- Francis.
Is from Latin America.
An Argentine -- why why is that significant it's significant because.
It wasn't an American -- the first new world of came from Latin America of course 40%.
Of America the Catholics in the world do happen to -- In Latin America that's pretty significant.
But it is very likely in fact that the United States will never.
Have -- -- now.
I'm not Catholic and maybe I'm wrong.
But it looks increasingly like the world the American moment in America's clout and significance in the world is on the way it's it's harder not it's hard not to to get that feeling.
Here's a second PowerPoint style matters substance more so.
Yes style the style of American leadership matters if you have somebody who's in charge.
President in the in the White House -- the world is rallying behind maybe it's easier maybe it's not.
But here's the thing.
Whether they like or dislike the president whether they like or dislike the leadership in Washington the world has followed the American drumbeat for so long.
Not because of personalities but because of the force that we brought to bear the world is the arsenal of democracy is the greatest most powerful economy in the world and as things get worse and we slipped further down the line it won't really matter.
Whether our president is a Nobel laureate or cowboy diplomat it won't matter because if we don't have the clout.
To make it another American century it won't -- there's no amount of style book that can overcome that substance that's just the truth here's the third PowerPoint.
We need to be mindful of these signals even though it does it's not really political choice and it's not about GDP but we need to be mindful of the fact that as developing nations develop beyond us.
We may be get -- may get left behind because quite often.
When somebody is slipping from the top.
They're the last ones to know.
And we may not be the indispensable nation for much longer if we don't get serious about it I'm just Canada there and -- sense stuff you don't have to listen to it and dissent.
And by the way thanks to -- -- -- who form gives Mark Mellman.
For his past indiscretions says that his jacket and -- nice today so this is good ever vigilant Internet.
As we like to do every day.
We want to leave you with the word from French -- -- the truth for the president is what you can use he used it today and then now he's got a new truth.
And who use it now.