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Jim I want to move to the -- especially had quite the quite the week at the Vatican this week it was extraordinary to watch I'm personally not a Catholic.
But I thought the images were amazing they were -- uplifting it was dramatic and we had a -- of course as you and so on Wednesday we.
We were on seagull -- he -- -- our friend.
Perched atop the chimney.
It and it didn't.
To win this was covered him.
Sarah suddenly sort of leaning in the media towards that spectacle the drama -- of it rather than the away from that the conservative.
The relatively conservative Pope.
That we've I think -- users -- is it it's suggests that the Catholic Church is just.
A media magnate and make magnet you just there's nothing like it it's a living put aside from all spiritual faith issues and I'm not.
-- -- -- -- -- -- It's a living museum visit tableau it taped to it you can you can see a connection right to 2000 years ago when and whether your fan.
Jesus Christ -- of the Roman empire or just history.
You know you just can't.
Would walk two feet in Rome and not think while -- -- haters go this attack this and that happened and these dinners -- does that happen and the Catholic Church including all its.
Churches around the world is to sort of it just is nothing like it you know it's a bit better that it would be -- but -- -- unbelievable brand.
Again and every every knows them everybody recognizes them everybody kind of gets it you know you'd have -- languages in our heads as you know that can catechism and -- -- songs on.
So that's that's the upside is.
And so for example on NPR and -- just yesterday.
They're doing a little what the call letters to the editor of discussion about what the coverage have been in three letters around all three for three also that you -- covering -- way too much now.
And Garrett probably not thought of as the most pro Catholic institution Kennedy ever however that you and then their -- and individual.
They couldn't get enough of my hope that elections and smoking.
Cardinals -- and -- that.
And then of course.
That's one element -- their element is.
When that when the mainstream media shouldn't think about -- segment we like the -- -- the pro life are thinking marriage are kind of -- -- so that of course they move -- into the show on sex abuse and scandals and women priests -- -- -- -- think that the throw in there so it's sort of a double file biased toward it.
Parameters of what would we want to cover this and we can't easily this is I've also clicks for a writer and then have a bias against in terms about but when we -- that blitzer with a talk about.
The most part we don't like it.
We were doing bad -- John Moody he yes today our executive vice president.
All author of -- Pope John Paul the second biography.
As well and he was saying that it was interesting watching the media wants -- -- -- became Pope.
There was a lot of coverage all -- -- this guy is very much anti gay marriage.
This guys very much and emotion -- the guys very much an anti contraception and John's point was well -- you know he's a Catholic.
All of the shots when people get up -- arms that they can't believe you know this church you know that the -- -- so conservative he's anti abortion anti gay marriage.
Of course he is he's a Catholic -- like the Catholic priest.
But secondly he's he's he's.
That's for -- and now you know in the Pope will be happy if all the but he came out for gay marriage and came out four or abortion.
I mean -- And I celtics' I'll reserve comment would be shocking it would -- and not be the word I mean that's that's it is being hit it -- it was able.
-- I didn't know what hit it -- yeah.
I have no problem I'll actually mentioned obviously that while we as we wrap up -- -- especially at the gym.
-- one of these cowboys is on -- is watch every Saturday.
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