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I let a lot from the beginning and each of those lifetime -- -- two teams.
And protecting his ego I mean his reputation.
And -- impartially.
And to related to any involvement in his dad.
I understand that.
There will always be questions.
But I -- -- just wait and see what happened to the best of my recollection.
And if I'm convicted and that's because of my own.
Bachelors in the beginning.
Jurors did ask dirty areas their own questions -- according question.
-- actually believe you now.
So -- the accused -- get anywhere with the -- -- eighteen days on the witness did -- C -- -- Hayden has been in the courtroom in Phoenix throughout the -- -- joins us along with our legal panel and -- -- prosecutor Michael Cardoza -- -- defense -- Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams.
Try out at the beginning of the show we showed a videotape that my colleague Adam how mostly would be received and I'm curious.
That was there ever any mention of that tape at all in the -- hours -- just been extraneous to the what's going on a courtroom.
That tape played a very big role -- trouble mostly interrogation -- -- -- -- you're standing -- -- -- singer anything like that that wasn't in the courtroom at all and to me.
The biggest event of the week was -- by the getting off the stand and and I don't wanna start anything here with your panel.
But laid back in January Greta you ask the panel it should should testify Michael said yes.
Bernie and Ted said noted this would have to say birdie at Ted I think were right I think -- really -- us up on the stand.
The jury was dealt with they're by the end its gals on their faces I don't think most of them believed her I think she really her case by testify so burning a -- But give me a thumbs up -- does a good call by you to.
Thanks -- -- -- in the mail.
I -- pretty much about that say we statement that the tape was made about six weeks after the eleven yeah order that instance did the tip of the jury -- -- -- -- -- head or singing.
Do you think she knew that that -- should maintain you know -- I've had clients that knew the tape was running it after the detectives lead engaged in all this -- bizarre behavior thinking it's gonna help them in court if she doesn't know that -- running.
She's obviously it.
Off center and whether that's insane or not I don't know.
But I think the woman is just torment that I think that's really her and she's standing on her head that she writes and -- pushed back her parents she is no appreciation of what's going on I mean she's a disturbed woman.
While the defense is in the she's insane it says she was acting in self defense Ted you thought about that videotape and that's -- -- our.
I was a homicide detective -- years and I can tell you regret the error of surveillance -- tapes in these are roms in these interrogation rooms I think she knew.
What was -- -- You've got to look at who majority -- is she's a very Smart -- -- canny woman she knows everything.
When you look at -- Martinez going back and forth you're -- this Al Ali and Frazier gone on she knows what's going on.
Dad -- you never know when you being taped or when an anchor from Phoenix is keeping notes what -- today.
From your thoughts different at.
Well first of all let's see whether I was -- or not and that's going to depend.
Whether the jury brings back -- death penalty or not and you don't know Noah and answered your question you don't know when you're being tape.
I've got to tell you -- had a lot of clients that walk up to the telephone in jails there's a big sign that says.
The police will be taping this phone call what are they do they get on and they talk about the crime -- confessed to it sometimes.
And in comes that tape -- I asked them.
You guys can't read.
Right well I thought they were joking so did -- no my guess that is she probably did know.
And maybe in some strange way this -- tape might helper because she is so bizarre.
Maybe -- journal think it is ladies crazy can't tell that to happen.
-- you did commit.
Was sacked by guys kinda -- right what's what's next psychologist.
I if I can come -- really quickly Judy being you know I spent some time with her in jail.
It within probably ten minutes of me beating her she was singing songs for me.
-- one subtle but for substance in the artwork she's definitely I mean she's an odd young woman but the question is what -- to snap.
You know that -- before she killed Travis Alexander which is admitted to -- -- but still up next we've got a domestic violence expert I believe coming up next on the stand possibly one of her ex boyfriends that's about a one note this would -- It -- that doesn't matter -- doesn't have not generated noted -- knows so much she's.
I had people are charged with murder their odd there's something wrong with them obviously we are the ability to push the button if Ted you know bothers me anymore he might get -- but I -- the thing is his post traumatic stress disorder I believe this guy just torment hitter.
And I don't believe she can be convicted if there should be convicted of first degree murder she.
Won't be committed to -- the rumor about printed second degree murder I don't -- -- know indefinitely and they're gonna help him -- a laughing at a loss.
I think I think it's a recent self defense they -- tried this case down should try to down to -- -- defense because it's 27 stabbings and -- that that's the prosecution's own theory that was done -- rates that could have gotten a murder -- second degree be out on -- on sometime but I -- -- -- -- can't the last word on that emerged.
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