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-- lawmakers want to know why the Department of Homeland Security is apparently on a huge -- buying spree.
This is -- just placed order from more than 300000.
Just the latest in a series of contracts that could add up to more than a billion and a half rounds of ammo.
Over the next five years.
Critics say that's enough bullets to supply the equipment of the Iraq War for 24 years and they want to know why the DHS is doing.
Congressman Doug about the is one of the lawmakers demanding answers the California Republican joins us now via Skype from Redding California congressman good to see you.
So let's cut right to the chase because some of the conspiracy -- -- say this is our government buying up bullets to use against us are you one of those who believes that.
Well you know that that might be regional part of this point where we've asked the questions ths Cecile what -- what is the reasoning behind doing this and when he talked to your constituents are -- cross my area across the whole country.
There's an extreme shortage of -- ammunition as it is Nelson -- when they hear a story like this then they wonder.
Is this what's contributing to us not being able to get ammunition for our own sporting purposes or planking or -- self protection would have been.
So we had a that a series of questions and VHS saint.
What is your procurement standards here why you didn't it this way you know we're here -- things like -- -- -- five year period.
And and -- -- it and ball so okay we met you'll appreciate that.
But it is a heck of a lot of rounds of ammunition.
And for some very dubious sounding reasons so.
But let me ask you why wouldn't dubious about it because I think DHS is saying look it's.
Forgive the announcer but it's sort of like Sam's Club you know and it's not -- -- need 24 rolls of paper -- -- paper towels that today is that you buy in bulk and it's cheaper and at last you longer you don't have to deal with that.
As frequently again why is that not acceptable answer.
I didn't do Friday partly yes that we get you know we're we're -- these things but it's.
Again one game people are wondering why and for example is a Social Security Administration.
-- -- almost 200000 rounds of hollow point ammunition.
Oh what what is it about our Social Security checks and and administration that we we have guys to know all went around with a note that your target practice there's an awful lot of -- -- going out.
These various agencies that -- Our -- for -- practice because.
They're must more costly rounds and soul and it's one thing to have you on the right people being able to.
Go out and do the pressing need to do but so I think this is certainly worthy.
A series of questions because a lot of people want to know and in this time of sequestered where everything is isn't -- disaster because -- is the sequester.
They really have that kind of money to be spent in on this amount of ammunition.
Especially at a time -- partisan questions are releasing many hardened criminals across the country out there and help.
Spiel you -- -- -- advantage -- -- is you touched on I asked you about the one conspiracy theory that's out there and then you touched on the other theory that is out there in your letter and you mentioned it just tears well.
Which is this is what you've written to the DHS -- are these purchases being conducted in a manner that strategically denies the American people.
Access to ammunition now that is a serious question because.
A problem with access to in munition according to some local law enforcement agents.
In various pockets of the country people have been complaining that they can't get -- -- for some reason right now.
-- what is your theory on that.
Again -- these are questions we wanted VHS to answer forest they have acknowledged our letter myself and fourteen other members of the house opens his letter to get -- for.
-- -- And so did acknowledge that they say they're working on it and so we will give them the opportunity to process that and let us know what and this so.
But -- the fact still remains.
All told about two billion rounds out there and yes local law forces have a hard time -- having to buy from.
People they know -- might have a stash of them or or runner means -- really isn't very.
Yes well I ask you this because I don't know what the what the answer is but I'm wondering does DHS normally do this where -- buy a they say we may not need one point 6000000001 point 2 1000000000 -- -- -- but it's up to we want to sort of authorized up to that number of bullets over the next five years.
As far as -- -- and will we look back it looks like for 2012 they placed a one year order.
148 million rounds but now this year.
It's a five year order of one point six billion rounds so is it unusual to do the five year deal.
It it seems unusual and I think -- sending her a wrong message to the people of this nation money can't buy their own ammunition -- law enforcement can't seem to buy ammunition.
We have -- -- and Ali's budget issues out there it sounds like a horrendous amount you know hollow point ammunition is much worse Vincent and the fact that.
You'd be using formal target practicing and playing in essence there's a lot of things that are stirring around this and then honestly there's a big -- By many many people of their government these days and so when they asked me to check in on this I think it's my duty.
As a as an elected official as a representative.
To get to the bottom you know these are just questions that we think are -- -- need to be asked and then they come from the people across the country.
Don't like to know these things so -- those people you know making fun of and a little bit -- you're using these words paranoia.
I think these.
That these are very appropriate for what we need to do.
Understood sir I appreciate you coming -- and a congressman who has written a letter.
Tom Coburn the senator Coburn has written -- -- -- well on February 4 DHS responded to that.
And said in part look we routinely do this and said these strategic sourcing contracts help leverage the purchasing power of DHS.
Efficiently procure equipment and supplies -- significantly lower costs.
-- thanks to congressman I'm -- for for his thoughts on it and we will continue to follow as they get as he gets a response at some point -- --
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