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Let us welcome to our microphones doctor Ron Paul.
Doctor Paul the former congressman and presidential candidate you like -- -- former before your name is that feeling good right now.
That's I was pretty good it's always great graduates you know that any -- prisoners.
-- you are you missing congress.
No but I can't write a little thing metadata are -- and this being yet this year England Bernanke was between.
That's like its servers community I didn't get -- asking the questions.
I got to ask ask a rhetorical questions you know -- article two problem.
-- later and radio commentary you doing speeches and you know there's so much going on that that and that you're very vocal.
Ten years ago and again on the tenth anniversary of the Iraq War that -- one of the few people in congress and particularly well a few Republicans I think there were seven.
Who spoke out against it at the time you feel vindicated now that you had the right position back.
Yeah it's sort it.
He used that word vindicated -- like I -- -- -- all I think.
Bradley got so they know about it and there were actually six through the Republicans -- and that of course more -- Democrats.
And and again it was a Republican more -- than most Republicans went along with it did -- without reason won't be back there's only one of those members of this.
It's still in congress and that's Jimmy Duncan so whether at this time they were -- they were considered.
Moderate liberal -- Republicans and three other -- were considered more conserve.
It's ten years later and we're still there although combat troops are gone but we've spent trillions of yeah I don't even know what we've spent in terms of -- treasure and how -- people have been killed more civilians which is a greater number -- and those who are.
Were in fighting forces.
That's right -- well over 8000 there were.
Active military people -- gonna kill them not contractor they don't report contract that people expect get killed.
But it isn't -- on not only is it hard to add up all the Costco is just really -- now -- into the many trillions of dollars but it long term consequences that these individuals coming home which watched -- lose them not all kinds of disorders and very -- -- very inefficient veterans' benefits it's.
It's a real -- But even today it's it's some tragic.
It's a reflection of the foreign policy because we have -- it's.
Secretary of -- the over there.
So rallying the government that we impose your you know that we put in the power the Maliki government -- -- don't you dare.
Allow the uranium trend to fly over Iraq.
Here's what we more left to turn that country over to wish you guys oriented group which allied themselves wishful appearance.
You know -- mischief than we did beat them know that they didn't she didn't weapons in this -- it's.
But I'm -- into is when is that -- stop and didn't -- it apology backfire so we worked this hard the wind gets.
Weapons of mass destruction get the al-Qaeda.
Now there's weapons of mass destruction still all over the place we have a country and its ally who fear a Rainier in never never never any al-Qaeda in the al-Qaeda.
-- we better off with Saddam Hussein in power.
I'm you know actually -- he's probably well I mean that's about doing -- -- -- -- -- -- apparently -- Saddam Hussein.
To it was at work 8000 -- incidents.
Iraqi -- -- 2000 if not a million people displaced.
You know I think the cost was when he -- oddly.
That people trapped in their sources -- -- okay yeah you'd -- sure what.
Yeah no I said the same thing I think we were better off -- not that we are like Saddam was -- -- the same thing he was a bulwark against or Iran.
Now would we have a -- Maliki who who is friendly with a government of Iran.
He and we we still had finished this year -- the to the Sunnis the Kurds and each other's throat you've got a very disgruntled group live.
As Shiites as you point out who who are Sunnis rather who we're no longer in power.
So so yeah I mean it's it's it's an interesting judgment call.
Yeah I think you know one thing that we don't talk about here in this country.
It's probably the underlying conflict over there he is eighty religious civil war between sheets as Sunnis and Shiites and that's ongoing.
I am I here.
-- we introduce all these extra actors.
You know punishment for -- is in the oil and and and these many other things.
I I think the reason -- -- of the problems are never -- worst is this constant.
Religious war that's going on in and we get in there and we just stirred the pot to recess for the consequences so.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Or the other things before that did that easterly part of them public dialogue right now.
Is gay marriage you just had.
Senator Warner changes position and that the state of Ohio now is pro gay marriage 53% of Americans vs what it was nine years ago -- -- like 37%.
What's your position on that.
I don't change my positions.
-- -- say never but you know on the keep -- same position IE.
And my definition of marriage are followed out in the you know that is -- I think his best to at the same time.
I know that the government and -- I think this speaks fights to go to the Supreme Court to really argue over the definition of marriage in my definition is this there's this it's.
I don't want to impose my definition or anybody else nobody else should tell me what they did they think -- should be imposed on somebody else which means.
Why do we have a little patients.
-- -- -- Point you know basically it would even hit the targets and also the constitutional question is if you are harder to fight over.
When you become a federal issue appreciative look good.
But it is as long as there's something in the code about straight marriage the only way to really have a quality is to even up the score occasion -- can -- those.
Laws off the books right.
Two wrongs don't make or -- you did support the defense of marriage yankees do you regret that support.
I'm not really mainly because I say -- the government ever involved -- perhaps too be at the local level and in that bill.
I don't sit there and it was voted on and so I -- that the principal.
That this federal government shouldn't come -- and overrule.
Rule and told states what to do but that's sort of a generalized spiritual because I don't -- get optional mandates.
-- On the issue of guns obviously a big push for gun control.
Who has a libertarian Republican I presume that you don't want any more laws having to do with guns.
Well the laws should be designed to curtail violence in polish pilots -- it's not like you don't pay -- -- -- it if it means how you use.
I use weapons and what you do so if they're being used it to -- to strip them.
Then had been the than government have a have a responsibility.
And so does.
I don't he riding a whole laws about what registration and it and and trying to figure out who's buying a lot went.
I don't think they do much bill that's.
I think we've done in the wake of new towns in there -- be any adjustment in terms of what we do in on that score.
Which on this and the issue of gun control following what happened in Newtown Connecticut -- the great -- or any any law any change in law you think we should have.
Surprised because you know when I listen to.
You know the the talking really a lot of hype on this I thought this would intimidate everybody in congress to Russia and put on a lot of strong controls.
So I would say that -- -- the conservative.
Position on this seems to prevail the one thing one position I took on nine afterwards which got a little bit of attention list.
You know when it came out and help the -- sit -- -- they were advocating.
-- with -- all -- the campuses and -- and I he I didn't think that was Larry Kramer and then.
-- expanded background checks would be a good idea maybe.
I don't know I don't think about it.
Like -- -- -- eminently lesion a minute here but I'm here on on -- a filibuster you proud of them.
Yeah he did he did a good job in particular issue and it.
He reached a lot of people.
And he has even admitted that.
The final letter that was sent to him had a few shortcomings on it but it's great to be out there.
And up talking about it.
That I'd like a lot like everybody to start talking about.
If you don't -- I -- at Toronto overseas I guess you saw I think in Washington.
The bit that is well.
Not a large majority of Americans say such a case that you're vegetables.
Yeah here's another isolation where we just running out of time I think it's -- -- break and I'm really glad we got a -- lead tonight doctor Paul thanks so much for talking to.
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