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For this little power plays at home.
Hopefully watching is a -- -- A carnivorous dinosaur long of -- loss record long extinct from -- -- than those are its bones the skeletal remains of it once fearsome force.
And this is power play and high.
And Chris -- and yes I will do -- as the father of a five -- almost five year old.
-- and -- -- I would do anything to get dinosaurs even to this Internet telecast but.
Significant is this.
Many say that the Republican Party is going away rapidly.
Not just the weeks.
Two big fans out there but.
Like the dinosaurs that they will soon be extinct.
But is that so there are some.
Evidence there are some evidences that it is not the case and if you look at the state and local level there are some interesting things to be.
To be extrapolated we will extrapolate we will of course talk about the big news today.
With your friendship and bring it will be here.
We will talk about Supreme Court arguments on most gay marriage.
And whether or not as state have the authority.
To ban that practice.
And prevent it from -- being brought.
To be eat we will do that we will talk about this is congress already getting overloaded.
They've only -- this congress has only been in session for about two months.
But the burdens are growing upon those narrow shoulders.
Over -- Capitol Hill as the president calls now for.
Four global warming.
Four things on same sex marriage yes but also very significantly.
Doing this Paula having difficulty over the budget can't -- -- and we'll have an all star -- in -- to discuss that's objective will be great fun.
And none of it will be any more fun I guarantee you that one of your dear friends and -- -- Michael -- Michael -- is among other things senior political an analyst for the Washington examiner.
Probably the best newspaper Washington DC.
He is also a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute which is an important deal.
And also he is -- -- Principal -- shall we say Michael.
The co authored co author of the almanac of American politics which you.
Read because if you were not a political that you wouldn't even be watching so Michael welcome back where else could be back.
It's now Michael is expand Internet doing the occasional -- the if you if -- intermittent studies of subjects that he finds a thread and pulls it out.
And if you were a devoted reader of the examiner which you should -- You would be reading about the Republican Party is not -- which is Washington examiner dot com beltway confidential law quite so after -- read everything at foxnews.com.
But Michael you use some interesting data points to talk about.
All of this.
Triumphal is among the left.
And gloom on the right may be a little overstated well.
You know I've been around awhile yeah.
In the Republican Party candidate for president did not win 47%.
Below its Mitt Romney did what 38%.
Well that's just 1% for the Democrats it was very cold lot of great -- and 601964.
What outing is a different -- And I think that's something different in 64 yes and you've got it with the Democrats headed to 92145.
Margin in the House of Representatives -- -- -- -- the late Robert Novak reports saying that the Republican Party and to become more liberal or was doomed to fail.
And they didn't they -- they -- one thing that one doubt five of the six next presidential election -- apart by becoming more liberal of with Richard Nixon Richard Nixon certainly was a move left from Barry Goldwater that's an ancillary aren't aren't just yeah.
Why it is today that the Republican Party is disappointed that Mitt Romney -- win the presidency they hoped and had some reason to hope that they that you would win the presidency.
But they've got -- -- -- -- majority in the House of Representatives they hit thirty of the state governors you've got 25 states with 52% of the population have Republican governors and Republican legislators.
Democrats have some what control in that can only twelve states and leave with with 22% of the nation's population so.
The Republican Party is not it on the brink of extinction like the dinosaurs it's being challenged it lost the presidential race and when you look over the last twenty years of elections you see two interest in things.
Republica Democrats have won the presidency four out of six elections and -- won the popular vote him in a -- Republicans have won majority in the house and -- at the last ten elections.
So I'd say that that tells us that neither party is -- both parties have faced challenges.
And what we're seeing is operating in the political marketplace.
Sort of market competition between the two parties.
Republicans have a challenge in particular with Hispanic voters were bound to be increasing percentage of the electorate though.
Not I think as much as suggested by some straight line demographic projections because -- immigration.
Declined sharply in 2007.
But it's the Democratic Party -- faces some challenges to.
One of them is cluster.
If you look at the -- Why are Republicans ahead of most state legislatures wired they have yet -- -- -- -- -- -- things like the Michigan senate which is a state carried our -- Obama.
26 Republicans called Democrats house that have.
It's because democratic core constituencies blacks Hispanics -- liberals tend to be concentrated in central cities and a few suburbs.
They get 80% 90% of the full.
But Republican voters -- spread around evenly around most of the rest of the of the state of the nation.
-- in equal population districts that means Republicans win a lot more districts even though they're getting 5560%.
Of the vote.
The Democrats are where they're giving 90%.
-- They should they should farm out some of their folders and force them you know to move from Detroit Kalamazoo.
Homesteaders get get out get after Holland.
You know we're a little need a lot of -- for -- -- That's on the most Republican county in Michigan.
Johnny -- says Chris we can hope the GOP goes away and sodas and so does the DN CE.
The parties are ruining this country.
What we -- -- if there was no Republican Party we might not needed DNC either because they just automatically win elections all the way.
What about the discussion at the time -- -- that the time is upon.
The nation to actually have a viable third party what say you.
Two things were powerfully against the third party in the men are the structure of our political system one is the Electoral College where.
A third party candidate unless -- starts -- as a big celebrity like theater Roosevelt tried really doesn't have a chance to be competitive -- his support tends to.
No way no way is the is that becomes apparent in the single member congressional district -- single member senate seat.
-- and in those situations.
A hundred years ago we had attest -- this proposition you theater Roosevelt running as a third party progressive party candidate against the Republican -- the Democrat in 1912 he finished second popular vote but only 88 electoral votes.
You had progressive party candidates running in most non southern congressional districts in nineteen.
Twelfth in 1914.
And by 19161918.
That was all going.
They didn't wouldn't they want some seats in 1912 they didn't win almost any in 1914.
They went away so we've had a test case went by his.
Theater Roosevelt up to that point was the biggest -- -- -- -- Republican president ever.
It -- arguably I think the biggest percentage of the popular vote since at least in projects.
But nonetheless wasn't able to form a third party.
Take that all you bowl losers out there.
They know in Dana Texas says maybe we showed his party more together word.
Isn't anyone listening Republican Party is doing bad.
About the Democrats -- they just lose the -- and -- tenth.
Yes everybody -- the the number of independents his own growing growing growing growing that doesn't mean that the two parties are gonna go away.
But it means is that competition is going to be intense intense intense for their votes.
And -- made alert there could be some pandering.
There just just -- voters are -- market opportunity market competition says -- a heat high okay.
When -- take a quick break but before we do.
And we are going to talk about.
The gay marriage the Supreme Court today but let me make a suggestion to you.
That's a good opportunity for you to go on the twitters and follow me at -- -- wolf where if you do.
UK examine this question of why -- overstate support for gay marriage why do they do that.
Why do they do that you could probably yes but I wrote about it today in my column and I write a column for you almost every -- that it says that love note for you.
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These two -- it's legal insights for which it is famous.
So stick around.
Batch is James Madison yes he was the president of the United States always -- -- accomplishment but history will remember him most of all as the father of the constitution in many ways.
And one of the architects of the concept of federalism and also -- some pretty fancy duds and this is power play.
And the federalism itself yes the case in front of the Supreme Court today is that gay marriage yes we know it's important consideration.
But a year for -- again it.
Whatever the case but really an issue today at the Supreme Court is federalism what powers -- states have.
To regulate themselves in the conduct of their residents vs what are the authorities of the federal government to intervene that is on trial today just as much.
As any question about same sex relations so what's the story on that.
Michael -- -- with us and he knows about public opinion and the law which is convenient.
Was -- you hold a law degree from Harvard Yale Yale.
It's -- one -- -- -- gotta you -- with Michael -- -- -- at Harvard is a university located -- new independent Connecticut that's right that's right now.
We have heard a growing movement inside.
The Republican Party than what we've heard some and -- we're definitely you know it and a big time in 2012 -- now but in between sixteen even more.
Which says federal government shouldn't be involved in the issue marriage that this is strictly a State's issue we have 29 states that have a -- of of some kind or another.
Constitutional yeah typically or statutory ban but many of those constitutional billions could be overturned by majority -- that's right.
And at issue today is whether states can do that.
What are the what are the possibilities.
In terms of federalism and the discussion here.
You know congress weighed in -- More than a dozen years ago with the defense of marriage act of 1996 it was passed with bipartisan support by wide margins.
In congress it was signed by President Bill Clinton.
Says he regrets signing and would like see it repealed.
And it basically set for the purpose of the federal government marriage is defined is in union between one man and one woman.
That -- things like the income tax marital deduction or something like thousand federal statues that reference marriage -- one way -- shape reform and other.
And that states were not bound to recognize.
Definitions of marriage by other states that we don't yet know that we have -- states and DC with.
Having legalize same sex marriage initially by court decisions but by referendum -- -- -- legislature more recently.
You can have you can have two women getting married in Massachusetts they moved to Pennsylvania wanted to force of Pennsylvania -- well job.
We don't we don't we are -- is necessary but are what doesn't see who is married so we don't know how you qualify for a divorce.
Let's get up to the minute because Shannon -- is where where else would Shannon -- -- at the Supreme Court where it's all going down today.
If Shannon how we do it.
Yeah I'm joined by thousands of our viewers and babies that he would do like lots of evil adult people and I think -- -- -- all over the -- Sarah.
I can't -- yes that thousands of our closest friends -- out here -- you can probably hear.
Yes yes yes so so.
So what do we know today that we didn't know yesterday.
I just about a arguments which went over time as we expected they would adjust as you know there is -- momentous decision ahead of them but it's important first to know that there are issues and standing that.
Technical procedural issue about whether this Wright controversy the right parties to -- before the court.
After proposition eight was -- in California by voters it essentially amends the California constitution.
To say that marriages only between one woman and one -- to be valid or recognized as legal.
While the state decided it wasn't gonna defend proposition eight just like the federal government has decided it's not to defend the defense of marriage act which.
Moral political -- -- prop -- California.
And supporters that.
I want defending it today there's a long discussion about whether they're actually the legitimate parties to -- the -- here defending as.
And the number of the justices seemed to have real concerns about whether this case is properly before them so that's the first hurdle but -- she gets the merits.
There was a split as you would expect between those who say that this is discriminatory against -- very specific class of violation of the constitution.
And other cities say they're -- traditional.
That rock relationship are.
A society and that it's not yet time to -- -- -- different -- to that is to leave it to the states let this experiment -- of the democratic process.
Through -- like the one on prop -- in California or through legislatures.
It's interesting that Justice Kennedy was very measured in his words but other folks who are hoping that prop eight will be struck -- same sex marriage will be allowed in California relaxing on.
-- -- -- About the roughly 40000 children in California we're living with same sex couples he said.
Look at an injury is presented to those kids that we allow their parents join together and marriage.
And the same -- that heterosexual parents not trying to get yourself.
Everybody's -- everything that Kennedy said but -- have a strong indication he did everything and it's well as other.
Is that this is -- -- -- be here so maybe no decision on the merits but in any case this isn't in this case.
It's not a Katy Perry concert it's the United States Supreme Court and that -- -- and -- if you are not watching her by the way -- America's News HQ every Sunday from noon until 2 o'clock you are only cheating yourself and Shannon thank you.
You're missing an appearance usually -- -- power play as well we will have a special administrative.
We'll be well thanks -- -- and they've got.
-- Michael I tread onto your turf today.
Writing about the subject of holes and those things.
When I wrote about and Patrick Egan who is is political science professor at NYU did a study in 2010 about.
Why holes on these referenda.
On gay marriage -- inaccurate and he found that.
The pre the share of voters in preelection -- saying they will vote to ban same sex marriage is typically seven percentage points lower.
-- the actual vote on election so this is the sort of the when we see polls that show obviously there's been movement on this subject.
But can we assume that its support for same sex unions is overstated well.
He was writing in 2010 and I think -- -- kind of results go up to 2008 you had a raft of state referendums on the subject to the period from 20042008.
And one thing we do know is that you know on this issue was changed quite so we do know -- -- -- I suspected that he's right about what he was writing about I'm not sure that's right about the polls today in other words I think that there was.
People felt a desire to -- Hide their opinion on this sort not to be in favor of equality and -- -- as the issue was sometimes frame.
In that people are more -- now we've got -- of the Washington Post ABC -- shoot 58% for same sex marriage.
That seems a little -- -- -- 49%.
You know op but we've seen referenda now in me which is one of the state that had it right at least they had a pre 2010 referendum on a state -- that legalize same sex marriage.
Voters voted to repeal -- end it was noted at that time -- and it's over in the now with the New York Times -- 538 dot com.
That the -- it you know that same sex marriage didn't do -- well in the actual vote as it -- polls.
You know people may feel that -- sort of applies to that but maybe last fall November 2010.
Voted to legalize same sex marriage Michael.
-- stuff power plays as this that.
Whatever gaps still exists will eventually be rectified and it will probably be not not be rectified -- away.
That social conservatives like that's probably true it will take some time but it's probably true Michael we're so glad you made time for us today that Smart and entertaining and insightful.
More Smart -- more entertainment and more insight just ahead.
As your -- -- Brad -- -- and Debbie dingle joins us to be Smart.
-- -- -- We just go at this point to work a political.
Courage to do what's required to be done so expect to a bill to be put forward I expect the debate to begin next month.
I wanna sign that bill into law as soon as possible.
And that was President Obama in remarks on immigration legislation that he expects.
Will be presented to him soon.
This is power play president is already the timetable on the immigration bill is already slipping a bit.
And now forecast it's -- maybe they can -- the senate can get something produced this year not this spring.
Are starting to hold but can congress really walk and chew gum at the same time history it's just -- But the the slate of things to be done.
Is growing whether it's immigration certainly whether it's gun control whether it's other things.
There's a lot for congress to do and they can barely do the stuff that they've got to do before the roof caves -- -- so what's gonna happen people who know because they've watched.
And watch with keen eyes are -- -- she is the president impeachment strategy she's Democrat she is with us.
Where is our it is our pleasure.
The wife of the dean of the house Democrat -- Michigan's -- what the Internet -- -- -- good to be here.
And Greg -- in the Internet -- true not just because your former senior vice president George W.
Bush and Republican campaign strategist extraordinaire but also -- professor at Georgetown University.
Which crushed my bracket crushed my NCAA bracket bu I knew I should have stayed with my hillbilly biases and not gone with the chalk but Brad welcome anyway -- it.
Okay there are two Michigan keeps playing this -- I have to be at okay that's recognized states don't I miss it -- and missed it they're both there well Alaska state.
That's -- what's the now okay so what we pose a question to you first every because you know how this works very well.
Congress can't do this they can't even do I mean they got its gonna take them all the time between now and October 1 annual budget if they can even do that.
I'm missing eighteen that I will disagree with you if you're a student of history that you haven't seen congress do great things to do a number of great previous congress not just wanted to do in recent years described it at last congress probably being -- -- -- out.
Yes I do believe that if there is -- will this this can be done it's not clear me we're gonna have one or two senators that are -- stop.
Anything from happening -- guns and immigration but I do believe that with leadership.
And the president you're seeing here reach out talking to members of both sides.
A desire by Republicans and Democrats to get some things done we may yet be surprised -- that received this.
It's this this optimism is is not.
Common here in studio three.
And the dead shall rise now Brad.
When I look at I saw Mark -- yesterday democratic senator from Arkansas who is facing a whale of a reelection fight.
He started as they would say as much as my cousins and -- and so they crawfish and on the subject of gun control eBay Whitman I may have voted for the continuation of the assault weapons ban but I didn't mean it mean it what I meant was that I knew would fails I didn't have to worry about that.
And he is he is taking heat all over the place.
Talking about things like immigration.
Talking about things like gun control does that get in the way of doing the larger deal on the budget because it it summons up these divisions on other topics it does but in the intro -- what the president said.
I want congress to hold I want congress I -- where's the president.
This requires presidential leadership this is generational.
To immigration right it's it's a big thing.
And at -- think is not done in a vacuum that the present serious about this like he said his first inaugural address and like he said 2008 the promise.
I will accomplish immigration reform -- first term first terms over.
President you're serious about it don't delegate to congress lead on an Ivy -- so that I think something get done -- -- -- waiting for congress to deliver something that we're gonna have to.
Yes we're very very fast of the three of immigration.
Gun control and a budget which are gonna pass this year.
I think any of them zero and Debbie says -- it will cut its budget and guns they know will have to back and see if they were right the winner will get it mountaineer basketball.
Thanks guys for being with as you were great as always okay Internet we got to hurry.
-- -- -- is up next she's in for Jonathan you'll enjoy that I promise but how about some rapid fire power points.
Today's PowerPoint criminals in our guests -- and the sick it was on this date this very date in 1910.
That congress took its first step that the federal government took its first step to really have comprehensive immigration reform.
And what they did was bands.
The immigration of criminals in -- -- in the sick.
In an effort to as this wave of immigration was coming into the United States mostly from eastern and Southern Europe.
To make sure that the people that were coming in were good gonna be good citizens and -- desirable.
So here's the first thing a novel concept that sounds novel doesn't let the congress would say.
We don't care how many are coming we care how good they are we -- how desirable they are for this enterprise.
So -- seconds PowerPoint is -- engineered now this was the beginning of what would be a very bad and still standing system of immigration which measures things -- what country you come from which is kind of racist a little bit if you think about it.
What country you come from and setting quotas it was very bad in the progressive -- Teddy Roosevelt was trying to please this story.
But it was very bad in the progressive -- because they were doing strict quotas that's faded away but we still do it that -- -- not doing it on the basis of equality were doing on the basis of quantity and that your third PowerPoint -- Quality not quantity -- wanna have been discussion about immigration.
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Seriously I mean that.
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I mean this is one country -- apple could purchase new.
And if I have a lot -- it consistent and he could only island -- in college you know I Cyprus issue.
And have -- -- I know this can slip leftover.
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