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Wrapping up the pressure on Syrian president Bashar Assad the UN has asked -- Swedish scientist to investigate allegations they chemical weapons were used already in Syria.
But our next guest says they've known they've.
That they he's known they've been used in there's mounting evidence to prove it.
Congressman my Grimes chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and joins us right now chairman you think you know with the -- this we decide this is gonna find out you.
Well they're they're investigating a specific event when you look at the -- deal of information and evidence over the last two years.
Through intelligence reports it's very clear.
To me in -- high probability that a small quantity of chemical weapons has been used.
And they've put -- weapons in a position to be used -- expressed intent to use all of that is really concerning.
And quite destabilizing to the region but we already said a red line if their -- we have to act what does that mean what should it mean.
Well you know the US has special capabilities so I know it should think that this means the 101 airborne division and troops on the ground none of that needs to happen.
We need to use small groups with special capabilities.
And we do have the ability.
To render -- the use of those weapons improbable.
Moving forward in my argument is listen if we know they have it in that -- undisputed by the international community including Syria.
We've we believe they have this intention to use we think that they've used a small quantity within the last two years.
Shouldn't we use what capabilities we have to make sure that they don't compound that 70000 deaths with a chemical weapon exchange here.
That would be they humanitarian disaster.
An -- and the refugee problem is already destabilizing.
Our allies in the Middle East and in this thing is growing.
More complicated and more dangerous to our national security interests and in decision is as dangerous.
As getting this thing wrong and we need to move for.
I'm in a Smart and small ways so that is not a big and ugly way later.
Well there's a few things going on here number one.
Where is the world's outrage about this if it's there it's being whispered rather than shouted.
And can we combined with somebody in order to not be embroiled.
In another Middle East War.
Well we don't want to be embroiled but here's the problem sued -- two sets of problems here they have off huge stockpile chemical weapons.
In a huge stockpile of very sophisticated conventional weapons.
If we learned nothing from Libya is you can't just toppled the regime and hope for the best that doesn't war.
And so if you want -- diplomatic solution so there isn't this mass chaos you have to have the credibility with the opposition.
And the Arab League and we have neither right now.
So -- opposition wouldn't even didn't even want to meet with our secretary of state they're so frustrated and the Arab League has been that I meet him a lot.
Saying hey what are you guys do we need your leadership at the table they don't need or military.
They just need some are special capabilities.
In a very small and limited way talking about training pots for the rebels who by the way got to see that the Arab League not these side government fascinating.
Now let's move -- -- -- the AP Jennifer Griffin wrote yesterday foxnews.com.
That in Jordan we are training selected rebels to fight this fight against the -- government.
What can you tell us about this.
I can't come up comment on any operations that may be or may not be happening in Jordan.
But one thing that we do know is that the rebels that we need to be working with.
Don't want to leave the country for any type of of training.
And so that's why many of us in a bipartisan way by the way in both the senate and the house have called for a safe area in the north.
Where they can be trained in Syria and that would be led by the Arab League.
And then and with the United States' assistance in doing -- could train and equip them and give them intelligence packages so they could be much more impact for.
Sadly the old news -- which is say though which I understand is -- out shoot an al-Qaeda.
Is actually winning respect them on the Syrian rebels because they fill the vacuum the west to the US specifically.
Did not -- over the last two years they are in position to get our should decide go correct.
That is absolutely correct and what's concerning to our allies Israel and others.
Is that it's not just in the hundreds anymore these al-Qaeda fighters it's in the thousands and they've attached themselves to these secular units and they are the only ones that show up -- -- I trained and really committed to the fight so these commanders have been more reliant on these al-Qaeda -- news for front numbers and that is really dangerous stuff.
Knowing that when Assad falls there's going to be some chaos think of all of those dangerous weapons that could proliferate.
Across the LaMont across Middle East Southern Europe that's why there's so many people in a bipartisan when congress -- saying hey.
We we don't need to be there -- a big way but we need to be there and a Smart way so we don't have the same problem we had Libya.
Which all of those guns -- I had cause trouble and Molly and other places around northern Africa which -- less why you spent some quality time with us explain to the American people are options.
Chairman Mike Rodgers thanks so much.
Hey thanks front and pay the price for inaction had.
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