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-- it -- about the mission but if it was we'd be out they're securing the border.
They're worried about securing the bottom line and that's it the final answer -- Dayton they don't care about securing the border anymore.
Sean Moran vice president of the national Border Patrol council -- sat.
-- house of -- spending cuts -- -- border security and we're back now with the -- up.
Faced with a 250.
Million dollar automatic spending -- as part of the sequester.
The Department of Homeland Security is gonna cut over time and -- time.
For Border Patrol alleges drive time means the amount of time -- to get from headquarters to the border and back and in some of these places it can be ninety minutes each way and the result.
We reported earlier tonight is that there might be what in effect is a 20% reduction in manpower on the border.
And long periods of time when the border isn't being guarded at all at various points along the southern border.
How serious is this -- Well I have to say.
On your union present there is saying exactly what I would expect the president of the union whose members are threatened by us.
Federal spending cut to say.
But I like to put -- little perspective the Border Patrol has grown enormously.
In the last taken last fighters according statistics -- -- history it has doubled in size in the last five years at a time.
When we also know that illegal immigration.
Is declining for reasons that have to do with the economy and -- Mexico's -- the bad economy here.
So I don't deny that there's going to be some service cut back I'm a little skeptical of the most -- -- Are you as skeptical of the impact of 250 million dollar cut -- Border Patrol.
Know that I'm skeptical about the motive.
-- as if there isn't anywhere else in the budget of this huge apartment.
That is constructing a headquarters for years and years now -- I'm sure a lot of money ends up in the concrete.
You know this is a stunt that's not gonna work it's obviously the administration.
It is in every department trying to find the wind and -- -- -- area that will affect the public the worst way.
And the similar that is the White House and -- but that just isn't working because that became so obviously everybody understands.
You mean can you imagine how much to waste is in that huge department that is remaining on touch.
And don't tell me that the money is on shift to move the Republicans has I have offered.
To give the administration the power to move the money around.
Obama has said he not only won't do it that he would veto a bill that allowed him to shift the money around.
This is clearly a stunt to get people to protest the at the receiving end of services like the Border Patrol -- like White House.
-- and to blame it on Republicans it's not gonna work.
This is called in Washington there's even a name for this kind of time fireman -- first the idea -- fired the most visible people first.
To show how harmful and draconian than the budget cuts are I'm not saying that's what the administration's doing but that's certainly what -- -- I've got this then here's thank but that's what they're doing.
No question about that it's also known as the Washington monument syndrome and in other words the most visible thing you close it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It does -- come at just the worst time it's interesting because that look let's take your skeptical I won't say cynical skeptical -- like the administration is doing it.
To try to site Al boy -- -- gods -- just terrible.
It also comes at the same time the administration is pushing immigration reform.
All of the immigration plans.
Demand border security -- -- certification of security so is this gonna hurt the administration as it tries to get comprehensive immigration yes no I think it will hurt the administration's very shortsighted.
The one and I -- the one person who.
And who can kill.
Immigration reform in 2013 is President Obama and he's off to a very good start.
One -- friends and he's championing legislation that will never pass that will give me you know you'll instant would be in any illegal immigrant here in the united -- will be instantly eligible.
-- -- go down a path to citizenship that's not gonna pass and now this.
He's making it very very hard.
A compromise can be reached one of the -- state senators for Republicans and four Democrats which is a very good compromise and will pass something like that.
As long as the president god doesn't continue these stunts like this chuck you're shaking your head.
Well I just want to repeat this stunt only backfires or whatever it is if people fall for it and I'm saying don't fall for it there's no real.
Reason that a moderate cutback in -- the Border Patrol is -- Mean we'll call -- -- -- simply don't do you imagine you don't know that that's true you don't know.
You don't know that if as to the border is unguarded because -- -- your losing drive time you're -- overtime I understand a union houses an interest of black -- it is conceivable that could mean that -- fewer guards along the border I do know the following Chris which is there.
There's ample documentation of the fact that fewer Mexicans are trying to get into the United States today many fewer.
Well many fewer -- -- obviously are presented to put this up on the -- because we have a graphic that shows us this is true.
You could argue the reason but Bakken and FY 2000 fiscal 2001 point 676.
Million people operate on and on all of the borders -- United States.
Last year 364000.
So it is dramatically down one can argue with and as because the border security has been beefed up -- -- -- -- because we've been suffering a terrible recession.
The main reason is that the immigration age.
Cohort of the Mexican population has dropped dramatically because their birth rate has gone down and furthermore the -- -- -- economy is.
Dramatically improved our order wasn't so I'm just calling on everyone to calm down -- when -- that -- -- 120% cut is not a model that's not a small announcement in real.
It's -- I have that is true.
I think hang up a sign all across the border saying that.
During happy hour on Wednesdays and Thursday so I -- nobody at the border.
Contribute to a somewhat of an uptick people who -- meaningful -- organize these trips across the border already know when it's defendant not yet and now we are doubling we're increasing that time.
That's gonna make a difference but the problem is is it's gonna.
It's not if you reduce the numbers -- the issue is why wasn't even required in the first place and it's purely a matter of partisanship.
You call me skeptical that's inadequate I'm cynical I'm so.
I'm so sick cynical that I make the -- -- in these -- incredulous.
-- this administration I don't.
By anything they're telling me.
When they reopen the White House a little Iowa talks.
Can go on them that visits probably didn't -- believing in them again.
We're all looking forward and I -- accidentally hit the incredulous.
-- -- I was very impressive that's it for the panel.
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