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President Obama under fire not -- opponents but from his biggest supporters.
-- Congressional Black Caucus blasting the president for a lack of diversity in his cabinet but is that fair.
His record pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins university and the other America the beautiful he joins us nice to see -- This -- two things.
Factor out of the Congressional Black Caucus is giving the president bit of a hard time about the number of African Americans in his cabinet is that fair to the president.
Well you know people do things based on their priority.
And it doesn't mean you know that he is not -- -- and diversity.
It just means that that's not one of his greatest priorities right now.
Did you say something about they couldn't -- the priorities of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Well yes obviously it does.
Probably it would be a good idea for them to engage him in some conversations.
And talk about what their goals are and what his goals and see if they can -- just like just about everything up on capitol hawk hill.
A little bit of open honest conversation could go a long way.
Factor for years I did poverty work and middle of a large city here in Washington DC and my my clients almost 99% of them were African American and so my you know this this issue of inner city -- is one I've been very instance for decades.
I'm curious do you have any thoughts on how to sort of break that cycle of the horrible poverty and unemployment in these inner cities because whatever we're doing right now.
Is not working.
I've thought about it frequently.
And do what we have to do first of -- Is make sure that we give people.
You can't you can be of course the water obviously can't make -- drink it but we need to make sure that the water is there for them to drink.
And one of the things that we don't need to do is enable people.
You know and in the sixties.
You know the great war on poverty.
There was so many programs that were -- -- That I think cripple people and decreased their desire to.
They escape from certain situations.
And that's not productive so we need to make sure that they want -- -- and then provide them with a mechanism to do so.
Reward them when they do so.
More and more people begin to see that there is a way out then a lot of it has to do with their -- work but also with the fact that people are willing to give them opportunities.
-- and -- ever -- and one of the things that you just talking about here in terms of the president and whether his cabinet looks diverse or not.
One has to actually set goals and say.
We want to make sure that we have a society.
And a workforce that's reflective.
Of the society.
You know regrettably you can probably send a camera out to the community and find somebody says you know I want all my free stuff and that then goes on the TV and some people think -- that's the people in the inner city want that's not been my experience -- -- -- wanna educate their children mature and they want doctors and want their kids to grow up and have a better life than they have.
What you say about the application form but how do you actually you know -- the nuts and bolts of how do we transform.
A community that has had so many you know entitlements and those programs -- may have crippled them in your -- How how -- we sort of in -- it in to the other direction and give them the opportunity.
-- the first -- you you have to make people aware people it in the business community.
People who do the hiring that there actually doing themselves a favor.
When they create opportunities.
For people to ex -- from poverty.
Because those are people they don't have to pay for an -- system -- the welfare system.
And they've become tax paying productive members of society who can buy the products that you make.
So the more such people that we produce the better off we're going to be so they have to be the ones who really buy into this there's some education there.
But at the same time.
We we need to bring personal responsibility.
Back into the equation there is no question that there is a segment of our society.
That likes to keep people in the subservient.
Position by giving them everything.
And that has nothing to do whether they're African American or whether there any other race.
You know that's human nature so you want people to -- to have a desire to move forward you don't want people to be complacent.
In a situation where they are and enable them to be that way.
That depression thank you I think you my first neurosurgeon on the airplane and more importantly the first presidential medal of freedom when -- which is the highest civilian honor around they -- from.
President Bush so let's fund and -- -- thank you sir.