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And that's is the podium from -- President Obama will end mere moments be making remarks.
About this call for gun control on this.
The -- of action that has been declared by gun control groups.
In favor of legislation stalled currently in the United States congress and this is power play.
And I and Chris Farrell and welcome and happy Monday Thursday.
For those of -- of the Christian -- out there and happy pretty decent weather for everybody else so welcome.
Now look here's the deal.
The president wanted and made it very clear call he said I will put everything I've got into this and so we'll joked -- -- Vice President Biden.
We came to -- -- some pretty broad based gun control measures currently prospects are not looking good so what will he say today.
What would he do about that's.
We are very lucky to have our friend Chris Wallace with us today aside from being the anchor of FOX News Sunday Chris is being.
Pressed into double duty this week filling in for -- there with sunning himself somewhere.
So we would be the television do we really have to get the image of -- there sunning himself I can give outlets people son -- like it to be fun.
I stood beside himself that he's working with -- somewhere I don't know.
And he thinks I suspect there's some golf -- there may be there's a chance there could be golf so that we're very grateful that you are -- -- good colleague -- to not only do double duty but stop and see us.
So the question is.
Will the president today.
Make a hard push.
Actual gun control or is he going to back off a little bit what do we expect to say what what do you mean by -- Actual -- could -- Well so you have the Dianne Feinstein Bill Brown which Harry Reid yanked and is now going to let come up only as an amendment because he said there wasn't sufficient democratic support.
Now the debate is over what kind of expanded background check system and everybody from Chuck -- all the way to the NRA.
Have something that they call expanded background checks but things have gotten pretty content.
I think he's gonna make a big push for the expanded background check and I think he's certainly -- say that he favors.
An assault weapons ban and also limit on these high capacity magazines that old.
-- twenty rounds thirtieth hundred rounds.
But I suspect you'll also recognize the political reality which is that certainly the assault weapons ban is not gonna pass and -- almost certainly.
There's not going to be any limit on high eight capacity magazines I think -- make a strong push on the eighth at the expanded background track.
And I think there's a chance that something got through in that regard and you know that'll be enough.
To be considered a victory -- yeah -- went now one of the complicating issues today is today this is.
It's the national day to demand action by the mayors against illegal guns is one of the groups led by Michael Bloomberg mayor of New York.
One of the things that they're doing in conjunction with this that the president is.
Doing this today in conjunction with that one of the other things that's going on.
-- that Bloomberg's group is running some pretty tough match.
That target Democrats and some red states where gun control votes could be -- -- people like Mark Pryor of Arkansas -- baggage in Alaska.
What does that what is.
What does this portend for the president and his relations with his party in the senate.
Well I don't think he's going to be calling out and his speech today -- you know it's always dangerous and you make predictions and then it turns out you know who would have we're just moments away from the actual event.
I mean you can end up with egg on your face I would be very surprised -- -- calls out specific Democrats by name.
Having said that I think he'll he'll push it in the say that he hopes that members of his party will.
Will go for this as well as members of the Republican Party.
You know I I don't think he's he's.
Twisting their arms too much because I think he knows it's not even close a -- -- -- If they were one or two votes away on the assault weapons ban I think he would go to the -- on -- but as Harry -- -- it's not that they're not gonna get sixty votes users what they need the supermajority.
Beat a filibuster in the senate he says and I'm gonna get forty -- -- There's no.
-- practical reason.
You know Democrats to make a tough vote on that and probably the same on the so I mean on the on the magazine -- -- -- But but when it comes to the assault weapons.
I'm sorry when it comes to the extended background -- I suspect he will that he'll make the big question you know without mentioning names -- hill.
He'll he'll -- his strong support for.
Complicating this stuff is the fact that the the docket is getting pretty full and congress we've got.
Not just the president's call this which -- we get farther from the new town tragedy.
That some people are concerned gun control advocates are concerned that the momentum maybe they did get.
The poll I think it was a news CBS news poll that indicates that it was 57%.
Supporting strong gun control right after -- mouse down to 47% -- what we've seen.
In late in the past which is that right after one of these horrific incidents there's a huge jetting -- of support and people are demanding action.
And as time passes and particularly is they begin to see what the details are in here all the arguments against.
Some of that subtle so it's not surprising but clearly there is not that the huge demand.
Except maybe for the background checks on the other issues it it clearly has diminished.
As -- a hundred days out from -- So with that with the feeling of urgency for advocates for control measures.
You also have the president says he expects immigration legislation out of the senate by the end of the summer.
And we have in the coming months it would will be a huge drew bar.
Over the getting -- debt ceiling increase.
As part of a budget deal for next year.
There are other things that we'll have to be taken up including a couple of controversial nominations.
This is starting to look like more than maybe the senate can.
Well I think the immigration is gonna get through fairly.
Easily just because of the political reality when you have the fastest growing.
Demographic group in the country voting bloc in the country.
And Obama wins since last November against -- 71%.
And that's just inescapable and and Republicans feel and -- and I say there's some quotes that they need to get on the right side of this issue so I think that immigration reforms gonna happen.
I suspect I you know we'll see whether.
-- background check on some form.
Could happen and and let me just say personally I think it is as important as extending the background check is to make it -- -- -- the -- feel strongly about -- a meaningful background track.
Again Jared Loughner the -- got real Giffords shooter.
Pass the background shots and this is -- -- been kicked out of community college so they got to make it -- that the relevant information gets then otherwise you can give more background checks to more people.
And it won't make any difference because the information you need to actually do the track.
Won't be there and you know I think the toughest call actually -- the -- Is to make some kind of accommodation on spending and that's going to be a tough when they're still you look at the Patty Murray budget.
On the one hand with a Paul Ryan budget on the other they are miles apart yeah it's not easy Chris are you in a position to tell us who will be on your telecast this -- ahead of position -- one of the guests were gonna have cardinal Donald world how Washington.
Obviously this is Easter Sunday he's fresh back from the conclave the papal conclave in Rome.
We'll talk to about -- France's he knows a lot better than you were I do.
Talk -- about the sense of urgency within the Catholic Church for.
For change and repent and dramatic reform.
But also -- some of the same sex controversy and where -- see is that you know it is a what is -- we talk about trends and attitudes changing and of course.
Cardinal world's things that he's protecting eternal.
Moral values and we'll talk about that and get an Easter message from the cardinal and was gonna have something on on gun control as well that isn't quite finally ball.
We know Good Friday has a lot of meanings for us booking it's a -- -- give us a Good Friday.
Okay it's holy week but we're gonna -- you're gonna give you some slack.
And -- Good Friday humor but we definitely -- so great we made time for us and you know will be watching.
Thank you mr.
Wallace okay Internet.
Between my column to you and it's on this very topic it's about president -- gun control.
It will need in a -- you as you are about the business of deciphering what his comments today -- and so I do that fiery Wright followed me on Twitter at -- -- when we come back.
Carlsberg can -- -- investor mobile Charles hurt and in most remarkable jacket will be here to talk to you about the question -- of the day I knew you'd like that.
-- -- I would actually going to the results that we -- already seeing from the Affordable Care Act which is a savings of two point one billion dollars.
In the analysis from the CBO it actually says in the future we're gonna see rates that are lower for higher benefits.
And that is White House spokesman Josh Earnest briefing reporters and no doubt hoping that Jay Carney completes -- spring break sometime.
I'm very soon and comes back mr.
and this is our funny if it mister -- there was talking about a new report.
From the society of actuaries which is probably a lot more fun of a group that may sound.
That said that costs for.
Health care claims.
Under the president's health care while will go up not just that they'll go up everybody thought they would go up on average by about a third and in some states it would be as much as 60% -- and said yes yes it's true.
But eventually it will get better when we start taking money from some people to give it to other people.
Health care and things will even themselves out so.
This coincides with remarks from Kathleen -- -- Who said that this it was true but it was okay because in the long run this redistribution.
And when it -- to health care costs would even things out.
And is known for this sequence it.
Of his opinions on many subjects but particularly on this brother hurt.
Is a columnist of The Washington Times.
And he is a man who is unafraid.
Particularly when it comes to -- -- sport -- welcome back mr.
These the especially in the hand me that yes this is urgent uses urgently yes it's if it's right I'm proud where -- -- it was handed down urgently no doubt he wanted to be given to him as soon as possible.
This what I got before his -- yes actually I doubt it if you've been a little bit.
Thanks so as long as misses her like -- -- it's it's that she probably.
Does that she -- -- leather vest and he -- springs on it now it should question is this.
Four middle class families in America.
Things have been getting sleazy way through you add that there everybody's taxes went up as part of the president's tax you at the beginning of the year gasoline prices are up.
Everybody's -- -- now being -- overrun by.
Illegals -- -- Our luckily enough our collective -- the collective -- yes because West Virginia it's still couldn't accept it should.
I don't think it's being overrun but just in and and slightly people from east Virginia are trying to do.
No we're not the Honolulu it's true because it was still shoot it.
The question -- is.
Will people actually notice do you think these increase health care costs -- the big.
Farce about obamacare from the beginning.
Was that it didn't Obama President Obama and Democrats sold this notion.
There was this great crisis in health care and there is in terms of the cost of health care and they think that but remarkably for a huge the vast majority of middle class Americans.
Access to health care was.
Widespread -- speak if you had a job.
For most people you had health care.
What we're gonna find -- in this is what is so amazing about these numbers these actuarial numbers we're you you have that this all these costs going up.
A lot of people who are going to realize they actually didn't have a problem.
With their health care.
Before this this yes it was more expensive and yes 88 and because you didn't really have normal customers you -- insurance.
It's a different kind of market -- -- insurance companies that that pay for these exorbitant prices for things you know protesting the -- you don't need.
But what people are gonna find is that that didn't have a problem before.
-- they have a problem.
Because people are getting their hours cut so that they don't have to be covered by their employers employers are dropping health insurance is part of the package.
The people are gonna have to -- pay for their own health insurance and as you point out those those -- those costs are skyrocketing and their skyrocketing in places like.
Which I have a lot of a lot of sort of moderate voters who generally vote Democrat.
But I think that it would would they equated it with an election year just ahead.
The with the with the election you're just ahead is it possible.
That people actually this will translate something -- ballot box.
Well I think it might -- -- -- a little early to tell -- just because we don't do here we haven't really seen these costs.
Yeah between now and then a lot of these costs will have kicked in because of course also let's not forget that President Obama who read this entire thing.
To happen to start kicking in.
After he managed to -- -- sneak.
We should point out of this senate former senate colleagues running for reelection.
And the head of something.
It's not be ahead of I think that is -- sign -- -- yeah.
I -- -- -- now that he as he likes to point -- he will never face another election again.
It's okay to refer to kick in now I don't even think he cares about this day he doesn't care about this to the senate.
Except in as much as -- you don't work for him to do what what he wants.
And but I didn't know I think -- absolutely I.
I think that this next election if you know you it conservatives haven't completely just given up and and thrown in the towel.
I think that this could be a just a monstrous -- -- election for Democrats but then again you know I thought did the you know that.
Two years here in this last election.
Was going to be a nightmare for them.
Because of the economy and things like that.
Of course it didn't.
Followed Charles hurt on Twitter and he will be later during a -- what she will be giving away this jacket god will not do the normal amount you forgot my cold -- hand if you -- -- and certainly you know that it's safe there yesterday figured out that it will be safe in your gold advances your children suffered multiple credit as your -- -- -- -- There you go -- this good in other parts of the estate will be safe.
And we thank you very much -- congress today -- -- vicious comments.
All right how about this we talked before about what's most up backing up and stacking up in the United States senate.
Will the logjam.
Oh -- to big basket and speak broken loose.
Or are we going to state and we'll talk about that when we come back sister -- I believe so I'm actually optimistic about this in part because I think both.
Republicans as wells Democrats are now recognizing that is threatening to do and I've always said that.
It's gonna require bipartisan action we're seeing right now good bipartisan spirit I want -- that.
That was President Obama in an interview that he conducted yesterday with -- he said OW hello and this is power play and I wish that I had a cooler -- that's so that I could.
Thought about it that way but did you get what you get -- -- -- but the president there.
Was talking about.
His expect -- That the United States -- wouldn't.
Before the end of this summer passed comprehensive immigration legislation.
Now look I know he was out of the country and stuff but this thing is not exactly coming together in fast fashion there's progress -- It looks to be pretty whole thing.
Senators are talking about terms of like maybe Thanksgiving break maybe the end of the year.
-- Labor Day looks like a pretty tough poll.
Is it possible given what else is stacked up on the runway.
On the tarmac here in the capital take off grounds.
People who know and may if you are nice to them tell you -- Are your friend David Mercer he is the former deputy national finance director for the DNC but he is now a democratic strategist.
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And -- I don't know if you have Twitter but you can follow David Mercer at beltway and you should.
But question and to -- -- with you.
This seems like an awful lot to do you need a budget with the debt ceiling increase president's -- the American people.
We get at least two more controversial nominees that have to make it through the senate.
Immigration on top of that presently say that the congress can walk and chew gum at the same time.
But they've fallen flat on their face every time they have tried to do more than one -- -- once -- -- wrong.
I do not run an effective Poland and I thought that.
On their face when they try to do what -- time unfortunately -- -- -- -- -- look at.
I think I think that both parties can agree that.
Immigration reform needs to be done.
I think it's a question of timing.
I think it will be done I think need to exercise that doesn't mean I'm going to do it.
Something needs to be done.
Look I think a lot of Republicans that we're sort of law and order Republicans.
Have gotten the message of between twelve election which is that we can no longer.
We we can we can no longer be -- stride and our views and and particularly in our rhetoric about.
About this issue.
It has been a long time in coming but I think we've we've forgotten the compassion part where where party both compassion and of law and order we can be both.
And and we we've lost sight of that -- -- side I think once we're back on that path and I think conference move a comprehensive immigration reform is is very doable.
Now it's not just Republicans and have some division on this subject labor unions that at the beginning.
Seem like they were OK with comprehensive plan there's getting to be a little bit more grumbling going on out there this is not going to be a layup shot.
Pushing immigration reform through is gonna take considerable political capital effort and will right.
And I think it is there when you.
In polls and we saw -- especially with Romney with his policy not being.
One that was resonating with the American public or Hispanics when he talked about -- importation Copeland moment we now see.
That Paul Ryan is Chase's website from being against.
The DREAM Act to knowing that the party as was -- in there.
-- make up four there for a new party to approached.
Much to you were referring to that they -- going to be more open.
Get more compassion in their rhetoric.
You know you cannot.
Allow for eleven million immigrants to be out there were.
Any status channel and so we don't need to go towards immigration reform and I think will get it.
Power -- we'll stipulate that a yes it is everybody would like to see this the Republicans would like to see it stopped being an issue.
At least one way to do that is to have a vote on immigrants has to pass it right so we -- to -- it.
But I'm just -- the mechanics -- -- the subplot of inventory to move for a body that has not moved much inventory in the past few years.
Well it is and of course immigration reform is not necessarily on the top of of the agenda of either party both parties I think as -- now stipulated wanna see it happen.
But we've we've got to get our our our finances in order we've got to get the economy back on track there -- a lot of big issues I think that's your point.
But I'll tell you what that the fact that Marco Rubio has been a leader on this I think speaks volumes about where at least where the Republican side.
Is it is ready to make some movement right if you're just looking at going to the Iowa Caucuses.
And just trying to -- the issue from from that perspective then we have a real problem because I don't think caucus voters are are ready to be real excited about immigration reform.
-- I think the fact that a guy like Marco Rubio was out in front in this on this thing as is Jeb Bush and others who were looking to run for President Obama merely need others very positive -- I think I think we're gonna see movement.
Now look you guys are in agreement more than just went straight ahead just win you guys -- you where where where the fisticuffs where's the violence the rhetorical violence -- Internet wants to know I'm I'm kidding -- David that Republicans weren't going to go there doesn't work it's a process.
All right so here's the question for you Davis the is that if I do the math.
And I say it's -- congress can only really do want they can -- negotiations behind the scenes but votes and things.
I don't see enough weeks between now and Labor Day for this to occur -- just don't see enough time.
When I look at the legislative calendar -- things I don't see enough literally days between now Labor Day for this to be produced -- -- wrong.
I need would qualify then say that they have to make the time.
-- I would qualify and say that for Republicans especially.
Being driven by what they saw.
In the elections in November where they went from.
Getting 40% and above on the Hispanic vote during the bush era are now down 27%.
They have to do something with us and we can't let -- languish.
-- in competing interest and it is a tough priority they have.
Apparently called each other coordinated more than -- choice today it was to tell me that I -- -- -- your head on the subject but I.
I hold out.
The congress is capable of massive inaction on almost any subject.
I holed out that possibility Internet so we'll see but we definitely know you guys are Smart we wish you very happy Easter thank you for doing things -- did okay Internet.
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You know the show's almost over but that's okay because on the hunt with Jonathan Hunt is up next I know you like that I -- you do.
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OK now how about some power points.
Under par under par is your power points where today seven -- Points -- in the points that is the deficit in the approval rating for the United States congress in the most recent CBS news poll.
Not really good that's not really good when -- rocket in the in the first PowerPoint shows 81 to eleven.
And 81 to eleven negative vs positive assessment that's you could say that that's not ideal.
That's not ideal but here's your second PowerPoint so why.
So -- here's the deal and this is the reality that you have to remember.
Is that it was almost that bad -- for statistical purposes on average about that bad in 20122010.
Today -- it was little higher but basically.
No matter how low congress' approval rating is it doesn't necessarily tell us what's gonna happen in the next election it just -- people throw their hands up at its terrible functionality.
Of this city so -- -- -- PowerPoint.
Different reasons different members don't over interpret these polls when people tell you about congress' approval rating it's.
Republicans may dislike congress for not being Republican enough Democrats may dislike congress for not being democratic enough that's how it is people can have different reasons.
And also remember the great truth about congressional approval.
You know who everybody thinks is a terrible member of congress.
Everybody but there -- guys they met him at a barbecue thought he was pretty nice and he's gonna help their grandson.
Get into West Point so he's OK it's the other 434.
Of them that are so bad at their jobs to remember.
These bulls are not predictive they're just snapshots of it consistently.
Assessment of what people think of their lawmakers in Washington or other people's makers in Washington those your -- points.
Thank you for being with us today and now as we like to do every day we'll leave you with the -- from our French.
It's been cynical I'm so I'm so sick cynical that I make the -- and these look.
Incredulous -- with this administration I don't buy anything they're telling me.
When they reopen the White House a little Iowa talks.
Can go on them -- visits probably didn't -- believing in them again.
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