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Right now mounting tensions on the Korean Peninsula.
Tens of thousands turning out in the main square in Pyongyang for mass rally supporting a new call to arms against South Korea and the US.
This follows North Korean dictator Kim Jong -- latest threats to strike the US mainland including Washington Los Angeles Hawaii and Austin, Texas.
Can warns he is preparing to quote settle accounts with the US this after the US deployed B two stealth bombers on a thirteen thousand mile round trip flight.
To South Korea.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel says the move was part of normal military training operations but make no mistake the US will defend itself.
And the north Koreans.
Seem to be headed in a different direction.
We were all.
Defending here on a truly committed.
To that alliance with South Korea.
The BTU is capable of delivering both conventional as well as nuclear weapons.
North Korea says it considers the drills as preparations for any invasion.
Though the Pentagon is worried about the nearly 30000 US troops stationed along the border between the two countries.
Most analysts say North Korea is years away from being able to attack the United States.
Case in point this satellite image of the Korean Peninsula at night you can see South Korea brightly lit.
While the north is the complete opposite just 26% of North Korea's population has access to electricity.
But Pyongyang does possess nuclear weapons.
The Bush Administration tried to prevent the north from going nuclear -- rounds of crippling sanctions but despite those efforts.
The regime tested their first -- in 2006.
And followed that with two more tests in 2009.
And again last.
And that leads right into what's happening now in -- Ross are using sanctions to try to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and summit question.
Whether -- they will be effective with the Islamic republic when they weren't so affected with North -- as -- just told you.
Our next guest is -- -- the experts are near Ryan sanctions he has also coauthor of an op Ed this week in the Wall Street Journal explaining why there's potentially a faulty debate.
Over whether Iran has -- so called red line.
Our -- executive director of the foundation for defense of democracies and you say that -- were awaiting the will Iran get nuclear weapon argument you make this week is.
That might actually not.
Matter about when they crossed that red line it's what they're doing -- -- to that point why.
What -- other problem is is that -- is dashing to and undetectable break out -- we estimate by July 2014.
The UN weapons inspectors are gonna show -- their regular inspection.
They're gonna wave goodbye to the Iranians and within seven days Iranians can dash.
To a nuclear bomb to the hot all the pieces of the puzzle.
Of all the piece of the puzzle will have -- centrifuges spinning their weapons grade uranium enriching they'll have the actual military aspect of it figured out.
And -- be able to break out to a nuclear weapon without the western intelligence services the CIA of them aside or UN weapons inspectors being able to detect that break out.
So a fairly obvious question but what's the risk but the risk and that vs you know waking up one day like we did when we saw North Korea she got their first nuclear weapon to their first cast.
Which splits the difference there with the risk.
Well the risk is is that where negotiating with the Iranians right now we're trying to come up with a compromise solution we're trying to limit their 20% medium enriched uranium.
And as these negotiations continued hearings are getting closer and closer to that July 2014 date where they will be able to break out -- an undetectable way we're gonna wake up one day.
Iran -- have had a nuclear weapon and tested -- They -- say listen we're not cracks in the Red Line we don't have a nuclear weapon we have -- we decided we're gonna happen which is one of the arguments but they're gonna have all the pieces to it so.
They still have a little bit of an edge but that's exactly right -- -- ends up with all of the strategic advantages of a nuclear power that even crossing the Red Line and running the risk.
And US military strikes they play the game of brinkmanship there was C North Korea play they blackmail last.
They they extend their influence regionally and globally.
And -- we're in another game that we're in with North Korea so remarkable to see those maps of North Korea right the whole north is dark.
Very few people have access to electricity but here they have this nuclear weapons of people are paying attention.
The -- states to send that B two stealth bomber.
Just to send a little message another award names that are happening in South Korea that's why we can kind of do some of these things we don't have war games happening right now in the Persian gulf.
But think about that same sort of message with a crime with something like that work.
-- that that's the problem -- the message that we sent to North Korea over the years in Toronto over the years is that we're reasonable people were willing to compromise where rational we understand the give and take of negotiations.
And their response to that is.
We're gonna take all the concessions we continue to blackmail you we continue to push to the wall because we know you're gonna cry cry uncle long before we -- you think -- that's surprising -- to see that did that pentagon make that move with North Korea do you think maybe -- -- -- switch or something that's changing now.
Regardless of whether it's with North Korea or Iran -- -- it's not just going to be sanctions this time around that we're gonna send a more direct message to what one hopes so.
But I think that these dictators in North Korea and Iran believes that where -- we can fly our fancy airplanes.
We can talk tough at the Pentagon but the reality is when push comes to -- we're gonna give then we're gonna give concessions and these regimes in these dictators know -- -- how we change that.
-- we change that well I think with respect to Iran which doesn't have a nuclear weapon yet.
We have to prevent Iran from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon.
And we have to not only sent a clear message that we're willing to use military force -- we may have to use military force before Iran actually achieved undetectable -- He's -- is a fundamental difference between Iran and North Korea.
North Korea is a terrible regime the Stalinist state but it has no influence and has a bankrupt ideology Iranians are looking for global expansion in global ambition.
That's the key points and keep in mind -- we're looking a little bit to compare that to you.
And hopefully as you say Iran never goes there never gets it nuclear weapon like North Korea Mercury can get that but it treat I think -- the F thanks -- John.
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