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And those are -- games or two members of the -- family -- gains.
And this is power play and I am Chris -- Walt.
And you know the thing -- jelly -- as we enter into the beginning of the Easter weekend.
Just because you get a few black jelly beans in your Easter basket in the -- utilities in your Easter basket does not mean that you're gonna pitch the whole thing.
It's kind of like making a deal on the budget in Washington how many black licorice jelly beans -- the president tolerate.
In his bag of budget -- beings we will discuss that today.
We will also talk about a surprising move from the EPA to heightened restrictions on gasoline.
That will they say make gasoline cost more expensive cost more money.
That it turns out is probably not super popular with -- will be gotten middle class families who talk about that we will also talk.
You know you love sugar.
You're candy gains or anything else.
But we actually subsidize sugar did you know that that the federal government subsidized sugar Doug -- will be here later part of this continuing series on what could become what to cut will have -- here will do all of that.
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One Bill -- he's the editor.
Of the weekly standard.
A and -- magazine of the right is a Fox News contributor he knows stuff and is kind to make time for -- welcome mr.
Well thank you for that extremely generous not to say disingenuous doll and insincere introduction but I appreciate.
And we're all.
Everybody in the in the Christian faith tradition is feeling extra guilty today so people are really on their toes today this is the day you can trial -- -- -- -- that -- -- usual success suspicious exactly exactly isn't everybody everybody's keeping it real today.
OK so here's the question.
So there is a peace and the National Journal and I have talked to.
Senior Republican aides.
On the same topic which is Republicans believe that is this budget fight bangs on.
They may be able to either delay.
Partially dismember the president's health law as part of a of the fight to -- to get an increase in the debt ceiling.
End to -- beautiful your budget what say you.
Say that that is a key to Republican strategists that the Republican success over the next.
Couple of years really over the next for the rest of our administration they need to delay.
And did this assembles what's possible obamacare with a future -- -- 2016 to replace leaves -- still think it's key to a conservative future.
Not to have obamacare.
In place for all kinds of reasons Richard Smith well being of our healthcare system to the size and scope of government -- the kind of intrusiveness of obamacare.
Implies but it is striking it does always Republican navel gazing -- -- -- -- and you know very well and oh my god what's the party don't do.
But what of the actual news stories obamacare the president seeking your shirt.
Is being implemented gradually now we're finally seeing it come into play and it's going to be a disaster and if there are many many opportunities Republicans in the house and for.
The servers across the country to call attention to all the different ways and the different.
Aspects of the different moments of its disastrous us and it and then to seek to change -- repeal and -- various parts of it.
In ways that I think just heightened I think the irony is Obama you'll be bigger should 24 team.
And -- sixty I think that was -- as well.
-- salute president very strategically.
Delayed the implementation of the disruptive portions of the law until after he was reelected after senate Democrat you made.
I have some doubts about that strategy at this point especially.
We see we see that as some twenty -- Democrats voted to repeal a tax that provided some thirty billion dollars worth of funding for new -- the new entitlement program.
Are ripping out the tax -- -- -- voting to rip out the tax on medical devices so.
Do you think that.
-- be about October 1 that we start to see a phased in implementation for Republicans what is more strategically.
Beneficial to work for a delay.
But the implementation is part of the deal were to take out elements of it.
What's the I think on both sides that I don't think we're focused through -- control what President Obama put deals he decides to make what does he decides not to make -- where democratic senators.
Decide to go in terms of their votes I think you've got -- on all fronts against obamacare the principal Republican position should be repeal and replace.
And incidentally as they go about attacking parts of it attacking it did -- they also need to be more careful I think sort of we were aggressive in laying out what they would do to replace that I do think -- hurt -- in 2012.
Not to have -- replace.
You can look -- that -- -- budget a month ago.
And it wasn't really fair because it wasn't his job as budget -- do this still he set -- as budgets resumes the repeal of obamacare.
And all the liberal media -- would say well really what's your replacements I think.
A articulating a replacement.
Be delaying it and say hey look that you got a huge deficit everyone agrees that delay it would help with a deficit that governors are ready to implemented the HHS -- -- -- implement -- So let's just common sense that's a -- And in three pull out particular parts of it.
And it's such a Rube Goldberg contraption contraption that she left to -- parts of it the whole thing could start from.
-- and well I think Republicans would not.
I think most Republicans -- not be successful -- to say that repeal would occur any time for 27 game there is I think growing optimism on the right that.
In 27 team you could either -- repeal or that changed in such degree that it would -- little resembles the original law.
-- -- really -- that I think you mentioned the EPA they're regulation which will increase oppressive gas either from anywhere from petty assistance that the government.
I mean if you think about what -- Republicans -- -- construct to about what was Obama doing that he's in he's in it imposing more more cost.
On middle class taxpayers.
And he's done nothing was he -- he let the payroll tax go up.
Which affect -- working Americans.
And now he's got EPA regulations that increase gas prices he's got obamacare regulations that increasing health care -- he's doing nothing about higher education costs.
Guess the middle class family you know what are -- -- costs where where you most worried about.
Not having as much money to save this issue with -- incidentally is that is running at zero or changing seagate unity interest and your savings accounts.
So I think is a very effective middle class focused economic assault.
-- Obama administration and Republicans who he was -- to take up.
There are many good things to say about Bill Kristol indeed but the best thing I can think of right now as it is perfectly set up the next.
Let's go -- we thank you for making time for us that we -- -- it's a good weekend.
Okay Internet brace yourself.
Collect yourself because we are going to talk about the middle class agenda and how we went from a whole election that was about middle class this and middle class that to talking about stuff that's pretty formidable us about what middle class people -- -- talk about.
And doing some stuff that is making life more difficult for folks who are.
In -- marginal economic situation we'll talk about that when we come back.
So stick around.
And that's is what it looks like when you're driving in traffic.
And this is power by now look.
Your cost for sitting in traffic is going to go up in a few years.
If in fact new regulations from the Environmental Protection Agency goes into place.
That the Obama administration says.
Will be more expensive yes bucks.
It will reduce things like childhood asthma and others and that it has long term beneficial consequences to health.
And spending on health care so they say worth the price.
-- is it and is it worth the political price now and next year that's a good question it's rather an excellent question so it is good that.
That we have Smart people to -- -- here with me he studio threes -- -- late.
Like that happened like that.
Former senior advisor to senator Harry Reid.
She is the principle it -- strategies that things overlap you know don't you know don't know -- welcome back.
Couldn't hear she's got her read on Good Friday and -- home -- And joining us from Denver.
Out in Denver.
Where they also have traffic.
Not as much as here is Sarah -- she is.
A strategist of the Republican flavor.
And -- has worked with people like Mitt Romney and other people who are definitely Republican -- welcome.
Think Fred good to be here how is it in Denver today is it warm -- cold.
It's great it's going to be about 64 and sunny south going to be great thank you how -- There finds there we don't regret it you and even a little bit just enjoy the all right I want to start I wanna start with you Sarah.
Yeah so so it's this.
It's that this new EPA regulation announced date.
Won't take effect until 27 team fully.
And so what what is the political utility to the administration and talking about this now people are -- about high gas prices.
There's no political utility in this this is another tier three isn't -- rule making it at its best it's another costly.
Senseless gesture in search of a problem.
The only major result -- that people are gonna pay more at the pump I you know I've never played dungeons and dragons -- but I think of the EP this year club as.
Playing this game that we're watching in this mythological.
The rule making it -- you know computer modeling world and all Americans are gonna -- -- at the -- this is gonna have an effect on.
All transportation costs from shipping and manufacturing.
Are -- -- friends at -- refineries -- in seeing ten billion more in costs it's it's senseless.
And me I don't believe that -- has never played dungeons and dragons I think that's actually live it but.
I think it event I will you maybe you.
I think this I think that she must have a point when she comes to news that there's a political cost to talking about this right.
And is also political -- for not talking about discussion and a lot on the on the democratic -- -- climate control -- climate issues are something that are part.
Neither Democrats wanted to have the president -- on his agenda sure he answered this is -- one of the ways in which state date and one of the things and one of the items that are on their agenda ought to be able to address in the know they have a short window.
That they know that they have a you know -- a -- or cliff that is coming into the into the president's -- so they are disappointed that more hasn't been done today.
And they are there any attorney to the EPA so there is a pressure that he is feeling from a lot of the environmentalists a lot of others to say look.
We need to do something to stop this climate change in what would be we know the congress isn't going to do it's it's -- -- be -- executive actions.
Or three year administrations we are hoping you're probably address it will.
But now Sarah for Republicans this is like a bonanza.
While they are busy today fleeing the presence of Don Young who -- -- incredibly stupid racist can't talk about.
Migrant Hispanic workers when they're not busy doing that.
When they catch their breath for a second they are taking time to -- the president on this this will be this is this is something we'll hear more about next year right.
Absolutely I mean and you're not can -- hear about this you're gonna hear about regional haze here and continue here about the Affordable Care Act you've got the -- deficit and need tax increases that just one -- -- 2013.
Also there's no scientific justice and a justification behind.
What -- -- a tier three today.
And I what is also confusing is the EPA isn't -- -- required under the Clean Air Act to reduce -- any further.
So I this is just it's baffling to me what what's going on here.
-- -- the president talked a lot.
I mean a lot consider that -- catering to the middle class is not nailed this is like this is the jam.
In politics but between twelve election.
Every other word that was middle class and middle class -- -- that whatever you were talking about you can -- small business and middle class.
Or hard working American families -- one of those things at me and every statement that you made.
Even if it was about nuclear weapons in Tehran.
Why aren't we seeing more urgency shouldn't there be -- -- more if for the president to avoid what he's facing now which are lower cover for ratings and increasing pessimism among the electorate should he be -- doing more of that stuff well and.
I think I had.
There's -- that he knew that he is trying to do everything -- -- can I mean he's had you clip after clip after clip.
I -- unfortunately there hasn't any appetite for a -- -- he would lock list.
At act at bargain -- -- that happened and it puts the economy on a kind of a little bit longer projection or a little bit longest -- that this month by month.
Budgeting debt with everything hints -- but -- he's only one part of the equation he still has it that the congress congress has the appetite for that being grand bargain so.
You know he's uses leadership immediately.
Face -- since -- frustrations and you know -- and -- we can't we're still stable.
It's gonna it's gonna require more turn off the fence but she's you know working on.
To really get everybody to the table to work on this you know larger economic grand bargain is Amex card is what is.
Right now -- he has to keep buying rack of lamb for all the members of the Republican conference champion -- the book sales tax fine.
Don't get an advance.
-- the four and before before I -- you -- wanted to ask you about this.
This Don Young thing in Alaska.
I don't I can't even bring myself to say the word that he used to describe.
Migrant workers Don -- a Republican.
-- what should Republicans do about that slaughter and Don you know.
Absolutely repeat what he said and I and I say apologize on behalf of him because if it was -- completely unacceptable.
And that's not a way to move forward.
And and that's what and that's what John Boehner already did yeah.
Playing any you know this is this isn't GOP that is get his GOP that is trying to move forward in your statements like that it's just put you back to happen.
In her statements that are comparing you know gay marriage was and you have to propaganda I mean you know there are certain -- -- out -- that do need to be announced immediately.
-- Giuliani is not reflective.
Yeah they hated it.
I beating Carolina native -- yeah he is not alone there -- -- exactly that it penny from Alaska knows that ideas not the most popular person in the conference -- we thank you for your time enjoyed -- thank you whether in Denver this anti today and any.
-- that's I hope they do well -- in spite of my suspicions of the franchise I hope that they do very well.
My take says you know the government says it will cost -- -- you know that because -- point -- and it goes into effect suspicious.
We will talk about why you're sure.
Is so cheap but so expensive and the deal with government subsidies for certain industries what's up with that why do you why do we subsidize sugar.
Doug Callaway will be here when we come back.
So stick around.
Americans consume more than ever they are full of it as a matter of fact especially this Easter sugar is everywhere.
And -- seemingly everything it.
And this is -- -- quite so sure is so popular as people are claiming their faces with jelly beans and keeps.
And every other imaginable.
This weekend and all of the time.
Why do Americans sugar producers.
Need to be subsidized.
-- make a lot of money but they need your money why is that.
It's a good question.
Another question thank.
And so we have brought you this age of deficits at this stage.
The federal budget Fox News his -- Doug Callaway.
Who has been -- question this week yes is that a compliment.
Sage of of government expenditures.
-- -- is that here's a gracious yes.
Investigation -- -- -- I've been.
I've been poring through you know government facts and figures and data all weeklong and the various -- our series on how to how to cut gonna keep -- that you keep this I don't do anymore that you can distribute -- make Jim -- nervous.
The I don't know I think the question is that he's probably.
-- The question is.
Why do we subsidize the sugar industry well that's a really good question that I there's no good reason Florida actually -- it has historical precedence obviously and they they date all the way back to the depression basically all these agricultural subsidies date back to the depression church -- in the dust bowl days we've been that great legitimacy the farmers are out of luck -- didn't have the kind of irrigation systems that we have.
Now there was indeed a dust bowl notice only grapes of wrath and how they -- moved to California.
Today it would help remedy that situation a lot of these agricultural subsidies were put into place and unfortunately.
Because congress certain regions.
Congress like them so much they remain in effect today.
With -- it costs.
-- cost roughly six times as much as the united state in the united says it does on the open market in the world market right -- as a result of of these subsidies as a result of that.
It's not just for example candy makers -- have fled.
The United States in droves.
A lot of that the candy bar if you eat are now manufactured in Mexico or Canada or another we.
And the deal here is basically best they can -- -- much more cheaply in tropical countries and they -- they do it we its.
American sugar producers producing a different fashion and they they coo coo the cane sugar from other places and in the Caribbean and -- South America.
Have tariffs on the importation of sugar which make the sugar that you -- -- more expensive because it's readily available from the -- tropics of the Western Hemisphere but we also give money we give money.
And it's more than what we've taken in these imported sugar -- to the sugar producers this has to be lobbyists that work mustn't this be lobbyists -- Worked well sure it is we responsibly from the farm bureau for our -- that runs my idol special report -- -- If we get rid of these subsidies -- states we get killed because.
Other countries subsidize their sugar.
And basically it's a competitive thing that that they maintain so why is it okay them.
Though I was I guess that -- the lobbyists for the steel industry must not have been good because when they -- subsidizing steel and other countries.
He started dumping it on the United States market places like I don't know Wheeling, West Virginia for example got totally cleaned.
Why should why is they're -- why why -- that sugar producers get this preferential treatment.
Well a large part of it has to do with with collusion among members of congress there are lots of agriculture I don't -- subsidies.
We've we've got to we're also Jimmy peanut subsidies and I you know you can't grow peanuts in most states it's it's it's illegal to do that there's a delicious they are delicious accident and nutritious I think that -- to try to fish but you can't go home and in most states because that they are protected protected commodity -- the same thing goes with dairy.
Price supports in fact.
There there are certain regulations when it comes to dairy products that that that they cost extra if they are transported to a certain distance beyond -- Claire Wisconsin -- -- -- back.
The get to the depression.
And 1938 when milk if it traveled a certain distance would spoil so -- protect that well since then.
We have refrigerated trucks so it's it's you know totally obvious to -- that -- -- but these subsidies remain in effect.
You have collusion congress grace.
-- Congress personal will conspire with others from other regions.
Say I'll vote for your agricultural subsidy if you vote for mind and that's in effect now they remain in effect until we thank you.
Very much about it we will be watching tonight on special report and remember who pays Internet you do.
That's right you pay for all of that pollution and all of that -- -- Combo that's okay.
On the -- with Jonathan Hunt is in fact up next I know you're looking forward to that.
And yes I am wearing neckties today because it is true that for the more than 200 million Christians.
People who professed.
Christianity here in the United States this is Good Friday.
And for those -- you.
Aren't necessarily looking forward to church on Sunday -- Easter maybe you're one of what we call the creature Christmas and Easter Christians.
Maybe you are just going to make your significant other -- your -- happy.
Political angle on all that stuff to make little more interest staying for political junkies so here are your power points for today.
-- saying it for Judea.
Organizing for Judea now -- pilot was that the man in charge back today.
When Jesus of Nazareth was brought in four trial and ultimately his execution on this day.
And -- he was the governor.
It backwater province and unprofitable harder to police province of the Roman empire of Judea sitting in Jerusalem this is not his dream job as a politician.
And he was a pretty good politician by the contemporary accounts that we have.
So how did it go down from a political perspective here's your first PowerPoint steer clear.
-- just -- first impulse when faced with what sounded like a populist insurrection.
Among a radicalized a group of his Jewish subjects was to steer clear -- the entire subject of this Jesus of Nazareth and that guy John the Baptist and all of that.
Let that be let the Jewish people fight out their own issues because it wasn't necessarily related -- remember room render to Caesar what is caesar's that he said -- -- render on do you whatever sort of back water religious conflict you -- -- -- I don't care.
But here's your second are quite special interest groups the -- season said he sees the leaders of the Jewish community in Jerusalem.
Were in cahoots with their room and overseers that they were they negotiated their deals -- it was sort of like -- -- -- French government and -- sense that they were part of helping to administer this difficult often rebellious province.
And that's special interest group of the -- he's instead -- -- hold -- just -- that he better get busy.
And bring in this Jesus of Nazareth.
Four trial when he said he was -- -- did what they told.
He professes to be -- king.
-- government and can she just -- But they said they tell unconscious pilot the special interest groups that they talent project -- tomorrow when they come you know what -- you know the the emperor Roman emperor would -- -- pilot.
They kill him they would just fire that killed that's -- and getting voted out of office so here's your third PowerPoint project pilot did what oftentimes cowardly politicians do in circumstances like this with the choices get to job he held a referendum.
And he asked the people who do you want to spare Jesus of Nazareth where this guy rapist.
And history is very different as a consequence of what the crowd shows that in Jerusalem.
So those -- your Good Friday -- so that adds to your experience this weekend thanks for making time for us and now as we like to do every day the word from our French -- -- I think that is why it will inexorably spread -- that's exactly why the court ought to keep out of this.
I think made it ought to be left and decided.
In the way that will give legitimacy by -- the media congress by people who elected representatives.
-- sites in the states and to avoid above all the mistake that happened was -- Ruth Bader Ginsburg who herself as a champion women's rights she's on the court -- leading -- she says.
That -- had cause a lot of the damage does it prevent you're to retarded.
A stable settlement of an issue which was on its way.
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