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You know they're all working hard on it.
I'm on away and -- -- see that legislation but I think most of us want to see them try to get to.
A place where they can agree on something that we can look at.
That was Bob quarter he is a Republican senator from the volunteer state of Tennessee and this is power -- -- -- And Chris Farrell give -- -- Internet.
What senator -- was talking about there.
It still to be seen.
But much vaunted legislation on reforming America's immigration system in dealing with those illegal immigrants or -- country.
And he said basically this we'll see.
Once we see so what's gonna happen.
Is this really on the fast track as it said or are we headed for a slowdown on the subject what is Marco -- think what conservatives think was president thanks we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about.
Mark Sanford -- -- because you don't go.
Because you know I had to because he's happy to have this runoff election that South Carolina today and it's interesting to talk about so I'm going to indulge myself and you simultaneously and at.
With discussion of this special house race fans -- on when a member of congress here also here -- -- you -- you talk about what's going on with sequestration.
And how come it isn't the way that this that it would be we will do all of that.
We will do much of it with the help of two of your very good friends.
You know Garland next and he is in fact.
The radio show host on WP FW here in Washington DC your protest injustice in the nation's capital.
And he is also I should always put this out of -- At long serving member of what police department is go to Maryland natural resources police and if you by the way and I don't know this for many personal experience if you're doing water -- wrong indeed creek -- these are the people who will detain him just saying just putting it out there.
The so -- that this is good -- -- -- here and it is better because Garland is with.
His friend and yours and mine Stephen -- -- he is of course senior writer is that he is of course Fox News contributor.
And he is still wearing a pink tie from -- so we thank you.
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-- -- -- worth boots I'd just like that means you sport plain -- time I did but that's the good news in the Christian faith for a dress and they got a you -- pump it up -- -- to thirty to process laundry is a process.
All right so guys.
You are seeing in ball rolling effort going on right now on the immigration law.
Chuck Schumer and others are saying here.
I heard concert at every Democrat buff and -- reviews and wait it we don't have a lawyer yet and if you -- this it's gonna blow up.
So Steve let's start with you are conservatives are very concerned about border security in this and Marco Rubio is saying if you don't.
Assuage those fears this legislation's not government.
Yeah I think he's actually -- mean.
Two things need to be set -- this personal Chuck Schumer this is not the first time Chuck Schumer has been.
In front that's something announcing that a deal is in -- done when the deal was not an effect on.
Secondly Marco Rubio has been saying from the very beginning remember when he first joined this gang of eight and did a round of interviews both.
That's our main stream media and also Rush Limbaugh and Mark -- and others.
One of the things he said and every single one of those interviews was.
This needs to go slow we need to have this debate it needs to be a national debate we need to have hearings.
It can't only be -- behind the scenes process with eight senators representing 77.
And leaving out the other 92 members of that deliberative body much less much of the country so.
He's been saying this all along I think it's important to have this debate in a public way I think that's what we're like music on let's say you.
And here -- going think think always thinking of politics.
I suspect that comes -- pretty good at the I suspect that the Republicans.
In congress would like to move this along at this yeah the glacier.
And it didn't release to wait until after November 2014.
To make this happen I think that there I think -- I think there are a lot of Republicans that are very very much afraid and it's a valid fear.
I think they're worried.
Concerned I think it's valid way I think to put it off why would benefit Republicans to have this negotiation going on through the election -- -- rather be.
-- of this issue ball before the election rather -- great candidate next year depends on which way it turns out that turns out in a way that their -- isn't happy -- they could -- write in candidates they could -- a lot of big things could -- So if I were if I were Republican which courts which never happened but any idea yeah.
I think concerned that the what ifs ands and -- the these are the question here is are they trying to set rubio to be a fall guy on this did get -- today.
Graham Schumer -- I don't know that's president I don't know I mean.
Lindsey Graham to I obvious it.
Prize that he went along with the -- innovative -- really didn't go along -- -- not -- Graham is is following on this but he's got me talking about politics he's got you know potential.
Serious primary in South Carolina hey it happens stranger things have happened -- many -- especially of late entries via.
So I think yeah I think he's not going to be sort of a last Republican standing in that but I think the politics on this -- are almost opposite.
I think that the that the president.
Seems to me particularly with this this last minute shift on border security where you now have Democrats and interest groups saying in effect.
We're not that conservative -- security at all in fact we don't we don't really want any kind of verifiable or reporter security.
Before we set people on -- path to citizenship that this is the sort of Lucy and football scenario that rubio advisors were.
Where did a very early -- they they talked about whether.
Rubio would be a leader on this issue they were concerned -- pointed back to that the -- Fred that debt ceiling dates of July 12 eleventh and said.
You know what -- what do we gain from this and it looks like the scenario may in fact be playing now.
We were rubio.
Who is balancing its.
Considerations of the president for a crisis and -- that he'd like to show leadership toughness and but -- Steve says this is a moment where.
The old bulls in the senate couldn't pull the rug out from underneath -- they let him go out front.
Take the limelight at the beginning -- -- and say this my bill I really like it.
Where it is and where -- presidential considerations.
Vs the 2014 considerations of the Republican Party fault more.
-- yeah I think he has totally different perspective on this because of its presidential.
Considerations he could end up being the hero -- the scapegoat you know he could end up even with no possibility of of the public and with no chance here of running he could end up completely rejected by the base.
I think this guy is this is this is a make or break period here for for Marco Rubio.
I warrants future -- to -- high wire act of power -- will continue after a brief break.
And we will talk about Mark Sanford because I can't help but I just cannot help myself but we'll do that when we come back sister -- And that's is Mark Sanford he was a congressman and he was the governor of South Carolina and then that thing happened.
And now he wants to be congressman again -- so is that going to happen today will be determinative.
-- now of that question as South Carolina Republicans.
In that district first district of South Carolina.
Have a run off to their special election primary to see if it will in fact -- Sanford.
The sister of Stephen -- bear the comedian who because she's except.
Democrats is her last name Colbert.
So what is going to happen in this race it is too irresistible not to discuss so we will put upon our friend Stephen Hayes and -- and Nixon to consider the question.
So -- and let's start with you.
Democrats we had -- -- spokespeople from the democratic and Republican campaign committees in -- yesterday and you could see that there was some uneasiness about Mark Sanford.
Because of that thing that happened -- you know what I'm talking.
But at the same time.
A pretty admirable ability to get Republicans back on his side in the district despite that stuff that happened in Argentina.
Well there's Angel redemption thing that is that it is often attracted to those evangelicals Dixon redemption yes I had a lot of stuff there that means is that -- -- new guy but under the thing about it is it overall from the perspective of but the Democrats we're kind of -- -- blood in the water mean Jim didn't.
Walks away and we have a chance of taking his seat that's feeling real good is -- true Democrat I think I think Mark Sanford wins easily is it at all.
As I -- about -- chain a chain reaction yes Jim -- leaves the senate.
-- promote governor Nikki Haley promotes Tim Scott who was represented that district to Jim to me -- Jim -- seat in the senate and now this heavily Republican district.
Is is open.
But Steve this is not a typical South Carolina district this isn't great evil this is a lot of snow birds are down there -- Republicans are more moderate because this is.
Coastal South Carolina.
Not a country South Carolina -- so true but true but true but I true but it's still South Carolina.
-- I've heard yeah Sandra pretty travelers interest in his in the -- -- -- primary debates.
If there was this question about whether his primary opponent was going to raise.
This issue this seeing that you -- referring to of the campus -- gonna raises directly or indirectly or make it at any kind of an issue at all and he.
Sort of did but in England got triple bank shot.
Kind of weigh in response to a question about the the job that he was was going in and work that he was doing didn't make a direct attack in the -- for people reacted.
As if this were some you know great transgression -- here you -- there up -- you you know you have said that this wasn't going to be an issue but.
I can assure you that as seen from wins and it's does -- ultimately the general election -- think.
That's going to be a big issue but will it be.
Hard I mean here's the thing if you -- Stephen Kobe -- sister.
You do have a name ID to get into.
The primary of race that many Democrats probably said.
I don't want I want it and I'm not -- statement this -- running in this heavily Republican district.
Does as people get to know her more more than just that her brother's famous and more and more than that.
Did she leave herself open in this district that is people are forced to choose -- issues.
Especially in a special election.
That that her -- fans -- -- I would suspect it's still.
Very wisely kind of run away from the issues.
The I really think the public like this I know that because -- cynicism so it's -- I guess I.
I would like I would like this I would -- I've got to.
I -- the issues and that's still a lot of pictures of me and my family and I just kind of we let not your -- pictures right.
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Congressman what do you do.
He's definitely black guy I've seen about mathematics at it's achieved but what about what about in terms before the Republicans.
Is it -- headache to have Mark Sanford back.
In congress is it -- does it matter.
-- and I don't think generally for Republicans.
Across the country -- -- he you know I imagine he will come back if he does and you know do the proverbial.
Keep his head down.
Work hard to focus on issues lots of local constituent service.
You know do the kinds of things stay off that we're -- -- use committee yeah.
Well put -- let it.
Parks would be Appalachian trail so that -- -- -- -- interior to work.
-- -- look we'll see but I couldn't resist and I want you to know.
That I kept the number of jokes to the bare minimum.
I'd really appreciate your forbearance and you know what we should thank Stephen Garland -- for being for -- two guys we're always grateful to have you but never more so than when I misbehavior so thank.
Thanks okay Internet.
I'm going to -- right now I promise I'm going to tweet right now thank you figure out how to work my -- computer.
I'm going to -- for you column that I wrote today about -- delay.
-- key provision in the president's health law we will brush up against that subject and talk about other things.
With the congressman Luke messer is Republican from Indiana he will be here.
In studio three to talk to you will have him answer some of your chest -- when we come back -- stick around.
Trying to do is to wake up.
Members of the congress on the Republican side to the idea that they need to come to the table offer a proposal.
So that we don't have to have this kind of calamity.
In the air service in America.
That was transportation secretary Ray LaHood back on February 22 warning of a calamity.
In American air travel and this is powered by.
And there was a -- -- hasn't been yet anyway and we got through the Easter travel weekend.
Which is a big one.
And there's been no calamities -- part of the two hour three hour waits at security checkpoints that were promised another thing.
Have yet to come to pass but the sequester is still not really begun.
Because you can't really do -- and things like that.
Until the seventh of this month so these sequester scare.
May still come to pass but for now it isn't.
So how does this affect the negotiations the ongoing months wrong.
Negotiate this over.
-- full year budget for the federal government.
Somebody who knows because it's his job to know well it's actually his job to represent.
Hundreds of thousands of people in the state of Indiana.
But it's his job here in Washington to help budget things.
Is congressman Luke messer is Republican from Indiana congressman well.
Well thank you glad to be here.
Yeah I -- what you highlighted there is the fact that the president and his supporters overplayed their hand here the son did rise today after the sequester kicked and we've still got.
Work to do here in the coming weeks and months but it it it appears we will survive.
Why don't we put it wouldn't do things will go on.
But the changes will start happening soon though the Department of Defense had originally talked about.
Having civilian employees.
A fifth of their days.
And now they're talking about that it's going to be like one in fourteen days.
But there are going to be cuts that are going to be reductions -- they're going to be service disruptions -- is that it did the White House can did the administration can make this her.
Are are you concerned that eventually the leverage is gonna shift.
I think you have to start with prospective.
You know while 85 billion dollars or 8885 billion dollars is a lot of money it's about two pennies on the dollar or three point six trillion dollar budget each year most people believe that our federal government has not so efficient so effective that we can't save a couple pennies on the dollar now.
What you highlighted is the fact that this president can decide to.
Make these cuts and Smart wasted.
Do the kinds of things that have the most minimal impact or he can try to do it in the hardest place.
We passed a few items in them.
Recent weeks that make that a little easier for example we will now have meat inspectors.
As a country over the coming months but you're right it's we're not yet clear what -- fully unfold.
And there are ways that you know -- Even if the broadest impact is felt.
If the president starts to deliver on this stuff there are going to be members of your conference to say we gotta we gotta stop this and stop the sequestration but do you think.
That the senate now having voted for a budget that reflects the frustration.
And the president having signed -- continuing resolution that reflect sequestration we you have the advantage in those negotiations saying look this is now been quadruple ratify it.
Well I think.
The president has long said he understands we have to spend less -- actions haven't always -- the rhetoric.
Think -- House Republican Conference is committed to the fact that those spending reductions.
Will hold we would all like to see more sensible approach rather than sort of meat cleaver that's restoration.
Has been an -- and hopefully as we all come to accept the fact that these reductions are going to occur.
Harry Reid the president will come to the table and a and a common sense way to try to make the reductions.
The least harmful we can.
That's and you -- -- -- freshman but I should I'm sure that you know that phrases like common sense negotiate.
The currency of Washington no but anyway.
I want to ask you about this and I did tweeted that I have provided it -- Edification and entertainment.
The White House via the story in the New York Times has said that a key provision in the president's health.
Which is eight to offer.
More choices to require insurers offer more choices.
-- to businesses.
As it relates small businesses that's going to be delayed.
For another year.
This raises more concerns about more people currently -- -- Congressional Budget Office estimates eight million people lose their private insurance as a consequence of the law.
This will undoubtedly drive that number higher.
What's your take there.
Playing first I'm glad small businesses are gonna have some additional.
Relief but I think what this -- they're not gonna get any relief they got a year for a year they're gonna they're going to be required to offer insurance.
But they won't do they're not but the insurance companies are going to be required to keep them cheaper all financials got misunderstood your question I mean this is one more example the way this law is is not gonna work I thought that what you were saying his administration that try to get -- they're gonna put forced them to do it.
-- -- members of the other side of the aisle Democrat members of congress are starting to come to to my colleagues in talk a little bit about that -- the way.
Kicking and the obamacare implementation.
Over the course of the next.
Few months -- not saying it's a groundswell yet but everywhere I go throughout my district people or understanding this.
We're not prepared that the administration's not prepared to -- released this proposal.
And in the end what we know is that it's gonna end up taking.
Fewer people off -- -- privately provided.
Health care and driving up cost -- there was a -- recent report released in the last few days that said that an Indiana where I'm from.
Health care cost may rise by as much use to 67%.
Because of this proposal.
Yeah its it's it's not going to be this good running is not going to be smooth now mr.
McConnell and senate Republicans think that they can drag this law.
Into negotiations over the budget.
Democrats say no way we're not given any ground on this -- do you think that there's a chance with these delays and other things.
Senate Republicans can force this into the discussion well there seems to be a growing awareness that the implementation this program's not gonna work we all know the famous line Nancy Pelosi said we have to pass the bill so we can read it clearly even years later people were still.
Finding out some of the mysteries and the bill.
I think we have an opportunity between tax reform the budget proposals and hopefully this health care law to to.
To bring to the table -- house Republican budget proposal that I've voted for eliminated obamacare I still think that's the right answer right congressman.
If you were from Newcastle Indiana just like my dear mama was -- know him already.
For those -- outside the -- district of Indiana we give you congressman Luke messer.
Was also a graduate of the second best all men's college in the United States congressman we thank you -- respect wealth good looks -- instances -- could print enough that the congressman we thank you for time -- Internet on how Jonathan Hunt is up next that's true.
But how about some power points -- -- let you go let's do.
Our points today new dominion new dominion.
First PowerPoint is 3738.
That is the finding -- -- University of Mary Washington poll about the gubernatorial election in Virginia that's gonna take place.
This year and that was Ken could -- -- the current attorney general of Virginia who's the Republican nominating.
And Terry McAuliffe the democratic.
Nominee for governor in Virginia deadlocked.
But with fewer people being aware of the race obviously when you have percentages that low.
So what's going to happen here what's gonna happen here so second -- -- his long stories both of these guys have long -- stories that are gonna have to tell us to voters could -- -- he has a long history.
As a -- -- Die hard social conservative in a state that is getting more and more purple so he's gonna have long stories to tell about how he got to where he was and how he can fairly.
And equitably represent people that include a lot a lot of socially liberal folks in the northern part of Virginia.
Meanwhile tempo and he's got good luck stories do interest and business deals that involved government subsidies -- -- his involvement with the clintons and all kinds of fundraising stuff and interest interest interest ahead.
So both of these guys are gonna have some explaining to do to voters when they get down to running for office.
Here's the third PowerPoint four shadowing the Virginia governor's race is important people we outside Virginia here's why.
As we saw 2009 in Virginia and New Jersey who have off your gubernatorial elections it's a great way for us to see especially in a swing state.
What voters are thinking how they're feeling and what.
The electorate is going to look like for the mid term elections so we will be watching the Virginia race closely closely closely closely I promise.
And we'll tell you all about it that's not this -- where that's where I keep the little worthless so those your -- points -- today thanks for your time.
Have a great day and now as we like to do every day we want to leave you with the word from our French.
It's an episcopal cherish it would be used to be said of the degeneration than those the American establishment.
And now it's the American left to -- and I think that's one of the reasons it in the on the mainline denominations.
And so it's declined because if you want a message like would revenue -- mail delivered he'd go to a democratic.
Party meetings or.
-- pro choice rally you don't go to church.
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