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-- questions about the future of a plan using unmanned drones to protect our border -- program faces a shortage of cash we're told.
It faces a shortage of qualified staff and legal limitations on where the drones can fly.
The use of these unmanned aircraft prove successful overseas in Afghanistan but.
But he is still on the borders off to a rough start Steward -- -- former death Department of Homeland Security assistant secretary for border.
And transportation security policy planning you've got a long title my friend you must be very very important good morning to you.
-- can you -- border security without effective drones.
Why they tried very key part of the strategy they really do provide a situation awareness that -- it cost point and especially areas -- -- role or you know tough the tough to moderate the Border Patrol but I would caution.
That the success overseas -- -- using lethal drones is not the same thing is as using -- domestically.
And is not a silver bullet I mean we need enforcement especially in the interior United States -- it workplace and in our cities and you can't just focus on the southern -- got -- but according to this report now but try out let's call it of drones were not successful.
Does that surprise you at all.
Well I think -- successes and -- -- holder I think they have proven successful in many circumstances it was tough negotiating with the FAA over how to these things will be deployed.
The privacy concerns or things need to be worked out but.
We did see a record number of hours with the drones in the air last year.
The question of course is not going to be using him to go after people physically what.
What did they provide -- the Border Patrol agents on the ground to go figure out where it's a real threat what's the best use this man manpower on the grounds LCI so we are proving useful but it's not a civil.
All yeah I you know you need -- need to ground -- that you need both of them this is for our viewers -- -- US customs border protection operates ten predator drones over the US who knew.
The ten unmanned planes has some -- eighteen million a pop.
Border drones can fly as low as twenty hours and as high as 50000 feet this more than nine miles high.
And by the year -- -- 8467.
Years down the road.
The FAA projects that could be 30000 drones in US guys are clearly not at all.
On the border remember this about border security if you want to get an immigration bill passed.
-- need Republican support.
And it seems the only way Republicans are gonna back this immigration bill and -- all at all.
Is if you're able to secure the border in if this report is true that's not happening right now.
What we did this no money for these for the drug program but not just that meet the sequester is hurt this program like it has all -- Department of Homeland Security.
So I think it's our notes -- -- McCain and -- are right to push for increases here.
I'm also is very concerned about our ports -- -- where legal passengers come through that's where a lot of the folks come in and and don't and don't leave on time we need to tracking of these -- overstays.
While without hurting kind of the travel economy coming across the southwest border so.
I think we can't have at all I urged senators to make sure there's funding for these things not just right in the authorizing loss to work well we need to funding behind all -- programs include.
I think it's a good point all this is gonna cost money I think people have to accept that especially during this time when the sequester is out there and everybody's focused.
On the amount of debt we have at seventeen trillion dollars but if the -- system is not practical and a lot of people are putting their hopes on the system.
If it's not practical.
What happens to border security.
Well I think again it it's practical in a sense that it gives them a tool to look at where that across -- to come again.
To make sure people being funneled through places where Border Patrol agents are we a lot more there is a hard working individuals they -- on the field.
-- so it's it's part of the solution.
But is not the only solution and I just I'd remind people immigration enforcement is not just along the border.
It has to happen every workplace in every city in every community around the country that's where we've let our guard down over the years once -- it's not the end.
Either through port of entry -- across the mountains they've been -- of Ronald in this country that has got to stop and we'll talk about it that one point stand to that point those that you have to -- and the businesses who hire illegals.
That's right now -- why.
Why has either Washington or at the state level why they've been so reluctant.
To do well this has been the big trade off between the business community enforcement advocates for many years they wanted to have -- access to.
A legal workforce.
So they've they've included -- legislation -- -- a first large guest worker programs and employers have a -- ability to hire people.
By employers have been very reluctant to agree to new mandatory.
Checks on -- -- at the workplace unless they had access to.
Labor that they need especially in the lower steel industries -- the grand bargain it's been talked about for many years it sounds like they're making progress but again.
We're gonna is much bigger yeah is that the power -- -- -- your what does that have had a big I think and one that.
I think at that bit of business -- of powerful lobby is that should be we want employers to see in this country.
-- but they've also -- look.
Give us access to workers we need workers economies growing especially in work forces where on the lower still side -- Americans are not gonna go out and and that large numbers you know be picking crops and nurses and those types of things and so -- is this trade off.
But on the cost at the workplace where we can spread the costs around employers over a part of that cost is a really good return on investment.
And while we need the southern border affective enforcement withdrawn its things.
We also need to make sure we invest around the country -- understand the verify program being the best example but again this report deals with the drones in the in the -- -- that the rollout has not been terrific so we're gonna watch that and see whether or not that changes.
And it's a work in progress I think I think they're making progress thank you Stewart talked to soon thank you --
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