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Jobs is known as a visionary as you know creating one of the most successful companies in the history of the world Apple Computer.
From the ground up our next guest was jobs his first Boston the age of nineteen and only boss I should add.
Says one he says there's one of them.
In every company waiting to be found meaning one of the Steve Jobs the name of the book that he writes about.
He puts all this is called -- the next Steve Jobs.
How to find higher keeping nurture creative talent Nolan Bushnell thanks so much for joining us my pleasure Ukrainian Atari -- nineteen year old Steve Jobs comes in.
Looking a little different smelling a little different that most people but you saw something special and what did you -- Intensity.
What you really want in all your employees is this passion.
This this this overwhelming.
Ability to just go for it he went for you right he saw you guys that you weren't seeking out another employee he -- -- you guys -- bill.
Exactly and and that's what you wanna do.
If you are doing a good company.
People will seek you out.
They'll find you.
Do you think one of our problems in the corporate structure is we try to fit people into a box rather be open to the visionary the next -- is in the next Steve Jobs.
How do we detect and -- disciplined person.
Who just wants to make his own rules to a genius it just needs some room to grow.
Usually the people.
Who are committed to making the world a better place.
Have this passion about it and you could see the difference between somebody who's just been -- And somebody who's really truly group and in the difference would be they maybe don't talk about money.
They talk about a product they talk about a vision correct and they also know a little bit about your company and they when they see already how they can fit in and make it better.
You say is he goes like Steve Jobs still like to swim against the stream and you like that turned things upside down.
-- -- devil's advocates -- the worst for businesses but they do now welcome but they do welcome.
They are great for creativity.
Well -- the idea is you don't want to have doubles things you want to have people who say yes over and over and over him.
And you try things and and it's not that risky.
The company that does -- want different things.
We'll be considered to be.
The most creative that are being at some film and you said -- -- -- thing you did is you allowed people to push your vision when you that you had that.
That are chattering company you ended up selling it for a lot of money which you said you made a mistake Hoosier mistake I shouldn't -- But but but you should people pushing it into a different to have a company -- -- -- -- they they were changing the corporate cultural walked and that was really big problem.
Because we really had.
Maybe the best ecosystem for creative thought around.
Right and one of the big regrets is you an opportunity to buy apple at 50000 dollars yeah and you wouldn't you wouldn't have that we're just a third of apple presented to us but that would still -- -- good.
-- you pass that would have been good -- But you had a great friendship that lasted all these years and you write about it your brand new book.
That the book is called finding the next Steve Jobs -- -- -- thanks so much for joining us my pleasure okay -- new.
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