Power Play 4/4/2013
Denver democrat has Akin moment on guns. Can GOP bring Obama health law into budget battle? And Obama gives up 5 percent in sequester solidarity.
Apr 4, 2013
Josh Kraushaar, Rep. Rob Woodall
Denver democrat has Akin moment on guns. Can GOP bring Obama health law into budget battle? And Obama gives up 5 percent in sequester solidarity.
Apr 4, 2013
Josh Kraushaar, Rep. Rob Woodall
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This won't hurt a bit.
That's what you're after might tell you -- that is what Republicans are telling the president.
As they tried to drag his signature health care law of 2010 into the budgeting process.
This -- power play and I -- Chris firewall.
And we will in fact explore that question we will talk about whether Republicans can do that effective member of the House Budget Committee.
On that subject as the framework for the fight over four -- fiscal plane gets going we'll do that we will promise you'll like it.
But we will also talk about.
A -- most unusual moment that took place at the fight over gun control was -- was in Denver yesterday a lead Democrat.
On gun control measures had kind of -- -- can kind of day.
Out there as she talked about the issue we will explore that question and we will also talk about president's move.
Two give back 5% of his salary probably 400 bucks a week.
With federal employees are going to be -- -- For a few days a month or couple days a month under sequestration will talk about that we will do all of those things we will have power points.
On that interest thing a revealing new poll.
You're going to enjoy it.
And I know you're going to address.
Because for a good bit of -- -- have with you Josh crossed our mind.
Couldn't almost on target could almost not target we're gonna keep that we'd like to have we're gonna have Jeff thanks so I can get it exactly right that and then we'll be done.
-- -- but Josh is of course the executive editor of the national German national journal's hotline which is of course -- -- political junkie -- you wouldn't be here anyway.
Someplace that you need to be checking out on a daily basis I do everybody does.
And that you are perhaps already won is 21483.
Twitter followers that -- right Josh well.
Josh that's a lot of this kind of I don't keep track but it's good people and it out of there just saying I'm just saying I don't even have ten -- the same kind of a big deal.
All right so Josh the Republicans are trying very hard but McConnell has a -- in the senate basically to say look.
Your health care plan.
Is still not that popular in -- having trouble implementing it.
Just pause let's just let's let's just let's delay implementation a little further.
And you will give you some savings.
From that and it would we do budgets for.
-- the big story that you're going to be here in about a lot more is that the media lot of Democrats that may be joining with Republicans on repeal order repealing or changing certain elements.
Of Obama's health care law that are becoming more and more popular are beginning to hear a lot of congressional Democrats speak out for the first time that's and they want to repeal the law looks into the wanna make changes they didn't realize.
That certain implementations would cause certain things to happen.
We have a law that's a couple thousand pages and involves that's part of the governmental bureaucracy these things are bound to happen.
For couples -- the long game -- -- he's been anticipating this for some time.
The worry politically.
For Democrats and -- fourteen.
We've been talking about the law in the last two elections.
As an abstract issue in and it was very real -- ten with a -- -- not so much of what it -- -- very few of the provisions took place the worry -- it for 2014 for Democrats.
Is that some of these provisions will -- in.
Both Republicans and Democrats will be trying to distance themselves from it it will hurt the whole party at large.
Jackson is probably music to their -- and congressman rob would all who joins us from the fox news bureau in Atlanta.
Congressman welcome to the show.
They thank you so much.
Right okay now we were just talking about the effort in the starting on the senate side.
To push the president's health law.
Into the budgeting process for the the coming fiscal year.
You guys on the House Budget Committee would certainly be amenable to that when -- Well we sure would have it any time that you have to have a conversation that talks about all of the unintended consequences.
Of a bill that now both parties want to distance themselves from you really need to start spending some serious -- out how to how to move forward and we have on the Budget Committee.
And how much money are we talking about here I mean if you were to delay let's say the president's loss for another year what what kind of money would be there.
-- you -- that.
Two big components the president's father all the new taxes that are going off but there's all the new spending that's going to start.
At a Congressional Budget Office tells us now while their original estimate was that spending was going to be right -- just under 800 billion dollars.
Now they're -- estimate is one point three.
The longer you delay these provisions from taking effect.
The board a positive impact it's going to have on the wallets of families across the country.
Our real challenge is trying to figure out how to save what is wonderful about the American health care system.
Well because the president's health care bill threatens to destroy.
That foundation that makes us different in very positively is from those European nations that the president's trying to.
To model some of these provisions after.
Now congressman and in the broader sense.
What are your expectations in terms of being able to complete -- real budget for the next full fiscal year.
Tell folks -- town hall meetings if you look at those.
Two plans in the middle that we had debated would've made every budget that folks were willing to introduce that some on the far left some on the far right but the two in the middle.
We're separated by one trillion dollars in new taxes.
And five point one trillion dollars.
In new deficit spending.
That's a big divide there in the middle so until the American people make clear to Washington.
Whether they're willing to pay for the benefits that they want.
But whether they're willing to receive less from government and thus paid less for government we're gonna continue to have this big divide.
We've now that -- chambers have passed the budget.
And this is that we'll see the president's budget come out next week I believe.
What are you expecting to see from the president's budget.
-- -- -- better late than never is is a saying now for reason that would like to have seen on the first week of February when the law required it but.
The second week of April.
Better late than never.
What I expect to see is a another budget.
That never ever balances and I give the president credit the law requires -- introduce a budget even though he's late.
He has always done that that distinguishes them from Democrats in the senate that have completely abdicated that responsibility.
Until well this year.
But often budgets that never balance shows a fundamental disagreement that Republicans and the president.
Which is how do you -- the American economy the president honestly believe the best way.
To create the engine of growth that is America.
Is to continue deficit spending an increase in the national debt.
As far as the eye can see to never ever pay back up any of our federal back.
For Republicans that's that's -- that -- that adds to everything we believe that it is absolutely courted coal.
That we make good on our commitments and that we not burden the next generation of Americans.
With those expenses that we incurred in this generation.
How do you bridge that divide.
The answer is by hearing from the American people -- I I think the president has absolutely overplayed his hand I don't believe the American people are with him.
On that belief that deficit spending continuing to grow the federal debt as far as the eye can see.
That is what's best for America -- just like they fundamentally disagree with.
If you were living on Lake -- you -- already but if you don't now you do that's congressman Bob would all congressman we thank you for your time.
Thank you -- Okay Josh we stay with us even if it's probably against the best advice for your career so we're gonna come back and when we do we're gonna talk about -- the top -- story of the day.
Who -- Doesn't really understand.
It's work and it's not having the best Thursday as a consequence.
We'll talk about that when we come back cystic Iraq.
I will tell you these are ammunition -- bullets so the people who have those now they're gonna shoot them.
So if you ban them in the future the number of these high capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets -- have been shot in there won't be any more available.
Remarkable statement came from bad it is yet she is a congresswoman who represents Denver she's a Democrat.
And she also happens to be the lead sponsor of a measure to ban the thing that she doesn't know how it works and this is power quite welcome back.
And that fight ever -- control continues continues continues.
And congresswoman -- jet was talking.
With -- that the Denver Post was holding.
In concert with the president's visit to sent out to send.
A message that he is standing strong for the -- of gun control -- that he.
Congresswoman did you and others are standing behind so how will hurt him in the statement -- -- like misstatement.
Affect the discussion over -- With -- still is Josh -- car.
Yes yes clothing OK bingo I -- I've got to every time as a starter what I know is just you know I'm I'm I want to be true I would be true.
So -- the question is.
Afford to -- her her district doesn't care about this issue she represents.
Did the city of Denver which do.
Would -- if you could if you had a referendum on banning all cuts in Denver it wouldn't it would probably pass.
Very liberal area.
But for Democrats across the country we're talking about we understand your concerns we care about gun rights good -- were hunters and and outdoorsman to.
Blowing this is kind of like it it doesn't.
Look to use well Chris the reality is that most of that the Democrats -- disproportionately concentrated in urban areas that don't own guns and they don't even know how to speak.
The basic language they don't know gun rights 101.
So you see a poll like that the Washington Post ABC poll that came out today showing.
You see these numbers are out around 90% of people support some kind of background checks -- almost how.
Of both the public included a lot of Democrats think that the White House ultimately what the confiscate guns -- racing pulls you see this a lot of cross currents in the polling and it's reflected.
But he gets comments the congresswoman is making him making things.
-- making statement that are inaccurate it ensures that total disconnect from the issue and it makes a lot of gun -- wary that even though they're not necessarily opposed to a bill -- before congress they're worried that that it'll lead to a slippery slope that non gun -- Democrats -- start to promote regulations that are anathema to to what the values of its.
But I did last ever column today about this I did it because the Internet matters to me -- mattered.
And I wrote this on this subject and if you followed me at -- star Walt on Twitter you would have -- are ready you could have already read it.
And I said that Denver -- has a -- moment on guns.
And you know we were talking in the break about this which is members of congress who hold wrong views.
Oftentimes are are never corrected they never have anybody correct them so they -- march 4 with great certitude -- vacant.
When he did when he did is that in 2012.
He was patiently explaining to this interview her front and from a local station in Saint Louis like oh you don't know I have special knowledge about rape and pregnancy and -- -- female body works.
And he was explaining with a real certitude.
And you could just imagine that both he and as yet would have been saved a lot of public embarrassment and somebody around -- just said at some point earlier congressman congresswoman you just don't understand.
Cable -- one of the biggest coaching out there you see this especially if that's a growing trend.
Chris because you've got to have an increasing number of both Republicans in Democrats and safe districts.
Industry -- they don't have to explain their views because they don't have to face tough election were -- elections.
And that the notion that.
Congresswoman from a very liberal district -- -- a -- -- from a pretty.
Pretty -- Republican district it was very -- don't understand the other issues that are being debated they don't understand the policy that's being discussed that is being litigated in congress is pretty stunning.
Especially when they are sponsors of related legislation -- -- was -- sponsor.
Bill that would have.
Including in cases of -- so he was sort of defending his position and in this case.
To jet to get.
-- but the good congresswoman from the congress leaders of the effort to get whatever you say -- -- did I think that's cool that's -- -- And the the the question you know for these folks is.
Why do you get involved in some and I know for her it was about the -- shooting.
That happened in her district.
And it was like I'm going to do something she picked it up but I mean.
You you have to manage that other people in her party -- cringe and it's like you're not helping us now.
Blend in and -- that the polarization on the gun issue is about as.
Go the -- as wide as any other issue out there even even and other social issues.
The number of Democrats are from districts where very few people own guns is very very high.
And that -- the lack of a ability that it to speak authoritatively about -- about what an assault weapon -- dropped some of the debate that's going on right now in congress is a real hindrance to getting legislation passed because if you're not familiar with the culture and you can't even speak the same language you're not going to be able to pass a law that makes a lot of sense so -- you know there are other leaders in both parties that are working hard to try to craft some compromise but the vast majority.
Of members of both parties and on dogs really Democratic Party.
-- have a significant number of members they can speak to the issue.
And it just for your edification.
They did so she what she originally said was that magazines.
When -- shoot the -- that are in one.
Are gone well that's not true -- her press office made it worse for her.
Because they can't makes -- -- -- -- documents -- clips.
Now the difference between a magazine and a clip of magazine is -- thing that snaps into the gun.
Into the firearm that that contains the ammunition a clip is -- thing for quickly loading.
Ammunition into into a fire they're both reusable and if you -- and they're still going to be tens of millions of these things around in circulation.
And it's not a coincidence that Bill Clinton it was a southern Democrat who could speak the language of -- in his possession of the actually able to pass the Brady bill and able to pass pretty significant gun legislation whereas President Obama comes from Chicago and Hawaii urban -- -- -- -- areas.
If you're talking really got guns in Chicago.
Not a -- yeah but it's a different battles they're as a way it's different than -- updated -- about -- -- -- to get this thing right.
It's the east making overt -- to pitch yesterday in Colorado.
But he just in the pitch was that we have to understand each other -- and I'm gonna persuade you about my position it was.
I just need you to listen to the other side because we we we're so far apart on this issue.
Where is Clinton can actually talk the languages of gun -- and actually make a pitch to southern Democrats who.
Registered Democrat that the that you get in the sport the Brady.
They know what clips and magazines are in Hot Springs, Arkansas I've been there I know it's true.
Josh you thank you for -- -- us up and again follow him you should follow him because he's -- to focus he provides actual news that is insightful and thank you clearance that's here today expressed.
-- -- we're gonna take quick break but when we come back we're gonna have one of your favorite -- -- -- your very very favorite analysts I know you love them.
And we'll ask this question 5%.
That's what the president is going to get back.
That's -- 400 bucks a week or so from the president that's not in it and not -- in considerable sum.
Is it going to get him -- mileage does it open up other members of his cabinet to questions about this how little work.
We'll talk about that when we come -- sister correct.
We got a record it's -- all the people don't write about our free.
That was President Obama -- ray's hell burger the now defunct race -- murder -- Arlington Virginia.
Way back on May fifth 2009 he and Vice President Biden went out.
And the president said look -- I'd like to take.
You -- amber around the house she's murder on the house but if I don't pay for it that these guys the press I was gonna write about it make -- big stink about him taking advantage of small businesses.
How does that and that's apparent ploy by the way you should remember that -- stipulate that for the record and and that.
So how does that affect.
The discussion about president giving back 5% of his that he makes 400 prettier 5% is twenty -- that's not -- in considerable sum.
Two discussed subject.
Are your friends and -- you're your dear friends you know quarter he is the chairman of civic forum pack.
Is probable Puerto and he is of course.
He Republican that's why -- -- a bit tight he advised John McCain he advises Republicans he helps them win elections.
You know who helps Democrats on election our friendship -- -- -- is president of solidarity strategies and he's the director of the Latino project act.
He is probable that obviously -- and just approach it really simple I'm just.
I'm only gonna point out though that Ford has twice -- -- -- here that's -- I'm not gonna make a big thing it says.
It was this is what.
I didn't even see these loud note that we think yeah exactly he's playing it -- played a whole different game to -- to the potatoes like Twitter does this work -- -- We're off.
We all need to revamp our technological approach except for four but.
For the president.
Is showing solidarity.
With federal workers were gonna be furloughed.
Does this help him make the case that he too understands the pain that sequestration is gonna cost.
He's trafficking great campaign theater okay the -- -- I don't that's what we like now the question -- RNC put up really weak response about.
Thousand dollars an airplane -- he's actually -- the -- he didn't.
Okay press would write about it now here's the deal the question is does this stay in the news.
I think and -- force.
Republicans to give in the same way you can keep the -- -- I don't think he can because right now he's not done a very good job and because the sequestered kicked out of march 1 most Americans and are really feeling that you.
So really the presence between a rock for workplace he's trying to push.
This issue back to the top of the news if I'm John Boehner do I now feel obliged to -- to give 5% of my salary back.
But let's be clear that most Americans hate congress most Americans have -- Democrats and Republicans congress in general whopping 15% approval -- and tell me the president and -- states you just won reelection whether you're taking a -- -- enough paper cheeseburgers while you're not congress should do it better than most people associate you put in the despite a lot of congressman.
Whether to send it -- the house it's a good thing because he's telling the American people.
We I don't know you don't let those people I'm thinking about percent cut if you were if you were if you were -- -- would you do in your pocket and throw it.
I mean I think some of this political theater like what's armies but I think duke took over that stuff but at the end of the day it's about -- we've said this before on this program is about a select group of people to select group of states that are -- determine.
What if any of them really do -- on her hilarious stand.
I don't know if -- shooters -- does he get anything out of it I don't know.
Now if I were let's say Janet volatile or Joseph Biden people who are rich the president's got a network of like 1011 million dollars.
And after he leaves office he will make a lot of money he's gonna make a hundred million dollars -- -- don't -- vacations.
This -- for a little bit -- get right on various bad -- letting it take to get -- -- -- -- I was I don't remember exactly littering in the studios metadata to -- up but does this increase pressure and other members of the president's cabinet.
To show solidarity to follow suit we know the Chuck Hagel who's rich chuck -- -- really rich.
Is gonna do something on this order at the Defense Department but what about the rest the -- Will by actually Texas to Canada Alaska senator by gates is doing the same thing eventually the question is is Mikey is it.
If they can't keep this in the news other members of the cabinet gonna have to do because they're gonna have to show -- team effort here.
But it is same -- the deal for Republicans in this were Republicans keep messing up.
As they have to explain to the American people -- deficit reduction leads to a stronger economy and job growth.
And if they can do that in this is going to be back in -- on their terms if not though the question is can they keep in the news if they keep revenues in the Republican leader to kick back and actually the Republican leadership do the same thing -- solidarity because at the end of the day we all know -- In the White House is not good job.
And chuck we know Washington is a lot more expensive in east Texas or northern West Virginia.
Oh my gosh yes and the and the truth is that for somebody who.
Isn't rich like the president.
-- or me or you write exactly normally -- like.
The -- for people.
Dollars sounds like a lot of money if you're in Texarkana right but in Washington DC that's not gonna go as far.
There are people going to actually.
Jam themselves up do you think there.
In this look I think that there are people that are struggling every -- and I don't think that this recovery that President Obama talks about Republicans to talk about myself I think regular folks -- to her every day I think they're they're -- -- their and they get a -- -- -- -- -- when the president himself with the present stars talking about real people making real sacrifices I think that that does.
Resonate with a lot of folks have they're like yeah I'm having to struggle -- sure for most of Jamaican connection that's that's all good about it he was a talk on his terms or talk on my terms but -- the candidate people hurt that's what people don't like congress and he -- to government to stay out of their way and -- -- -- live in the big.
Can do to get along -- we appreciate you not throwing anything forward we appreciate you anyway yeah yeah.
Our guys thanks very much on the hunt with Jonathan Hunt is up next that's true.
But before we get there about some power points today's -- points are old check -- -- Quinnipiac University very good -- we like them they're my second favorite -- behind Fox News poll.
Had a good national poll on gun rights.
And gun ownership so you first -- point is 91% vs 8% that reflects what we found in the Fox News poll.
That 91% of people favor 91% of voters favor universal background checks for gun purchases something that people like.
They like the idea but why should there be exemptions they called the gun show loophole WR caught there's broad support for that right now.
OK so that should be simple -- to pass universal background check legislation right.
Wrong second PowerPoint is 48% vs 38% 48% -- plurality.
Of those same voters who were polled by quinnipiac.
Said that they thought that if registry was created -- that we have a record of gun purchases was created.
That it could eventually be used to confiscate legally purchased it legally owned guns.
Say they like the idea of universal background checks.
But 48% plurality say that they think that that could be used to -- become ownership rights so this explained -- -- -- clear path.
If Democrats like to pass some gun control legislation in this congress they can do.
Because they got a 91% but they can't forget about the 48%.
Of those who don't want -- registry if they drop the registry they might get expanded background checks senator Schumer but if you keep on.
You know negative that's just the way it is the -- -- -- so those -- your power points for today and now as we like to do every day.
We will leave you with the work from our friendships sanctuary around them for a for an hour I'm putting aside my cynicism.
And crediting him either with sincerity or.
If you like the grandiose we have a second term -- president who thinks he's omnipotent.
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