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Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel demonstrating just how focused he -- on the threats coming from North Korea and we're back now -- our panel.
So there were reports today that the Obama administration is dialing back.
Some of this measure is.
And -- -- for us such as sending.
B two bombers over the Korean Peninsula have 22 fighters of the Korean Peninsula.
For fear that it may.
A a North Korean response -- in this calculation by the new leaders on a wise move -- When you're dealing with someone -- bat guano crazy is Kim Jung -- I don't know if anything can be actually a wise move.
You can -- -- you talk of both ways you talk about.
If we pull back that we'll be seen as being perceived as weakness or people back that might give them breathing room.
I I'm personally I'm very worried about an actual war coming this on the greens.
-- -- -- -- Well I mean I know we obviously they're saying terrible things but the north Koreans a sad terrible things -- out essentially -- in part because I think that Kim Jong-un unlike his dad and granddad.
Crazy and has been raised in a bubble where he doesn't understand where these lines are the way it's his his -- predecessors did.
And he may actually believe what his own generals are -- -- was like I was listening to NPR the other day they had an expert on saying well.
Until they actually pull back the south they don't allow the South Korean workers in this case on facility everything will be fine -- -- -- yeah external local radio morning -- say they've announced that they're not letting them in and that was supposedly a very dangerous sign I worry about it.
So so it -- has -- the supposedly disciplined highly developed over the course of dealing with -- successive -- over over decades.
-- play book of how you respond because this is a familiar pattern.
They he makes rats they -- they do various things.
Stopped short of war and we in almost like a couple key dance.
Respond by showing for us.
But there is apparently some concern at the Pentagon and in the administration now that maybe this playbook doesn't work -- discount.
Because they don't know him and that's why there's so much unpredictability and so much that we don't know and that's why it's so hard to calibrate our military show of force.
I think the north Koreans know exactly what would happen to them if they.
Attacked the south percent missiles the United States I mean they would that would be the end of their country.
But the US doesn't want to do something that's gonna freak this guy out because it has no idea how he's gonna react.
I think the key to this is China as it always has been.
-- North Korea can't exist without China China wants stability on the peninsula and and it needs to step in and make that happen.
Charles at least the signs are that the north Koreans are.
Ignoring their Chinese sponsors so far in this crisis.
And China has never shown that it's prepared.
To value anything above.
Them maintaining the existence.
Of the client regime it has in Korea because it does not one -- the one thing.
It will not accept as a united.
Korea run by the south which in fact could possibly be nuclear.
And -- it tolerates it supports it subsidizes this insane regime has and will continue to.
But I don't quite agree that everyone knows including -- on him how we would respond.
-- all clear that we would respond to say -- two years ago.
They attacked island and South Korea -- all of a sudden opened up an artillery.
Very killed civilians on the island and there was almost no response.
Which actually -- the government in the south because it was a no but they have a new president who's supposedly wore giants who deserve it and I understand sets.
But she herself is untested -- -- she's a new president.
They daughter of a previous one was no real experience.
So Irish I'm not sure anybody knows he could be that we would have a very limited response.
There's not going to be a nuclear attack because it doesn't have a way to.
To make a small.
A small weapon that could be.
Delivered on a missile.
But if there's a conventional attack it it could be that we will not respond at all.
Or they'll be simply.
Response it'll be proportional -- which means it will be useless.
Then there is Syria it's -- now it's very interest -- John more than two weeks since this.
Mysterious attack on an area near the city of a lot follow on rebels.
Question as to whether or not it was a chemical attack or not.
Let's look at what President Obama said then and let's look at what today the state department's -- We have to make sure that we know exactly what happened.
What was the nature of the incidents.
What can we document what can we prove my understanding is that the team is still preparing to go -- and you up to that they UN for further clarification on that.
And that apparently is the truth -- weeks plus later the team hasn't even left for Syria.
Yeah -- and the Korea whether this was.
Chlorine from a factory is user is reporting or.
An actual deployment of chemical weapons I think people legitimately don't know the answer to that and that's just not enough to find out if you don't send the team to find out yeah I am I don't think the Obama administration is all that eager to to find out because they're committed on -- red line rhetoric and if they find out -- it was a chemical weapon than it made it.
-- things up for them.
And it's an -- hard to find out even after they go I mean doing forensic investigation in the middle of a war zone is not so easy.
You know it it.
It's it's it might be very hard to do anything with and find anything that's definitive but the president did say something very defendant of which is this is a red line -- -- he has proven that he has to do something about it but if he doesn't have proof of that it doesn't have to do anything right but I think that if there is proof it's hard to keep that bottled up.
Then again it gets harder and harder to find the proof.
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