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You know it has been a big problem just getting the metric there was a Rand study awhile ago pointed out that.
That DHS at certain times uses increased apprehensions as evidence that we're doing better.
At and then you know sometimes in the same report -- values decreased apprehensions as evidence that we're doing better.
And so we we don't have a metric that we can really -- on to ensure that we're doing what we need to.
That was Jeff flake he is -- United States senator from the state of Arizona and he was talking there to Mike Emanuel Fox News colleague.
And this is power play and -- and -- -- also.
What does that mean to aid Republican or Democrat to a conservative Republican or moderate Republican.
How do you measure it and we and is border security good enough.
That people who are concerned about such things I can feel good about trading off an amnesty.
Talk about that we will we will we will and you'll enjoy it we will also talk about the vary vary who -- jobs numbers that are out today.
And happy jobs numbers that are out today as hiring.
Ground to nearly a hole.
In the month of -- we'll talk about why I promise we will we will also talk about.
A floated offer.
From President Obama to take up changes to entitlement programs near and dear to Democrats is he for real.
What does it mean and we'll also talk about challenges in the invitational.
The president's health care law.
That's a lot for a Friday so I try to take my time off I didn't wanna get all -- -- over here I had to stay loose had to stay -- to move through so much material.
Always -- though is Terry Jeffrey he's the editor in chief.
Of -- news.com.
Eight a blowtorch.
News from the right side of things very good to see you think -- theaters like that blowtorch that you guys can feel free to have that you don't even need to sponsor for the right people exactly there you go there you go so.
Republicans would love to be able to stop talking about immigration as an issue because it's not particularly helpful when you get to election time.
But the details on this thing are proving to be very difficult -- Jeff -- there telling Mike Emanuel that even measuring whether the border is secured.
Is is a very difficult -- because the same numbers can be used to prove or disprove if you're catching more people does that mean more people are coming in or does -- mean that you're forcing a better.
We have Chris the -- -- -- actually meeting willful decision to not -- people that border security and rational way.
And the city Government Accountability Office which is when a government agency that really does -- job has been very good job calling -- administration -- -- specifically -- -- -- -- -- -- and we -- -- metric measuring different parts -- -- department work.
So how we measure how the department there -- work pro works.
They came up with as a measure called border miles under effective control.
-- -- what is of -- under effective control of good questions that we need to find it.
Was that this was a mile where the Border Patrol can only detect -- illegally crossing the border.
They had a reasonable chance of catching them within 100 miles of the border.
It didn't catch him at the border and he had -- he had fifty miles then depending where they are -- Nat.
So what happened.
That happened is that this number got stuck at 873.
Miles on the US Mexican border which is that 9854.
Miles is at its big.
Said he only had.
Of the Mexican border under effective control -- 6% of it wasn't people can freely cross the border there there is no reasonable chance that that Border Patrol in the administration it stops and what -- needed.
DHS announced that in 2010 at the end of that fiscal year -- no longer report quarter miles under active control.
Because it was embarrassing to us they did it and they would -- within a matter they have not come up with -- metric.
They don't want -- commitment in -- they don't wanna get back to reporting go to mass that are effective control because they don't want the American people the net that more than half of the Mexican borders might have been illegally.
-- Right so Republicans are both in a quandary over what to do what to say the -- -- we've talked about this before that the deal -- At at what price amnesty what do you get in exchange for M advertising or eventually and this -- thing those illegal immigrants currently in the country what's the threshold.
What's the trade off and Republicans have said.
If you want any amnesty we need to secure border in guarantees that it's not gonna happen in the future.
And the growing concern to those who on the right about.
The proposal from the so called gang debate which includes senator -- and also Marco Rubio.
On the right side of things.
There's going to be an amnesty but this security never -- Efforts so I think they ought to -- is legalizing illegal aliens in any event.
That there's -- two metrics when I just mentioned there's another metric that is is no longer publicly made available -- on a regular basis by the Obama administration.
That's number of people that you found no match that he keeps his taxes are paid Social Security number that doesn't match their name.
At that during the bush years actors -- people in congress who pitched very hard to get -- numbers that.
But we -- there's about nine million or more.
-- -- forms balance -- security administration the higher -- every year with the name did not match this bastard never even after they investigated -- -- this person.
So what they decide it was these are most likely -- -- are coming -- -- elite there that look if they do have got other or are criminals anyway people who want to hide -- people -- identity theft or breast.
Sit sit what you couldn't understand that the IRS refuses to allow it to be -- thirty ths because they -- and it violates internal revenue -- problem argument.
If you can take a steady give it to ths and some companies for example Chris -- as one company in Illinois and -- to -- about thirty -- thousand.
New match that he teased and one.
Year -- days -- the incredible.
Assertion that by the way it's GA yet.
32000 wonder why not gone bust.
Following all these false documents with the IRS.
Because you know this is an employer has built a business model -- -- and massive numbers of illegal aliens the -- lucky that anymore they enable.
Being secure the border because your people the government actually do you not want to enforce immigration laws.
Well and there have been -- in the business community who have not wanted to enforce immigration laws the United States for a long time but now we're seeing.
An agreement has arisen between the chamber of commerce which speaks for big business.
And the leaders of big labor organizations that they say look.
We will accept what we call.
Which is a system where every every employer every large employer anyway as a terminal.
In -- -- government terminal in their workplace where they have to scan the de identification cards of prospective employees.
They're not in charge of busting the person.
It but if they get a green light they're free to go ahead and -- wouldn't that eventually cause what Mitt Romney has described as self deportation.
Yes I know and that -- shipping -- Romney was absolutely right.
In his stuff these companies like this only based company that had 32000 and -- to BT's.
Bet you Stevie and I don't have it anymore it used to be -- -- security administration every year.
They actually make a list of every employer -- it states that editor more.
No match that he treats this is ready made -- for going out that you are forcing this on the employers.
Government doesn't want to do it and in this this definitely is a partnership between big business in big government.
To the detriment of the average -- Let me let me put something else out there and table right I used to live in Stockton California this anarchy.
Not not having a great week -- him not having a great week ever in my column that this week's acting.
Is -- of all I believe all the places and faces they're making no place better suited for -- human well.
Human beings live it's -- San Joaquin Valley trying to it's an unbelievable client has huge resources of water coming out of the -- I think.
This city went bankrupt we find out from the census here at 41% of the residents stock didn't speak English 20% to speak English well legal immigration is -- help make America won't be.
I I believe that one of the things that help the Stockton California listed became -- -- for.
All right Terry Jeffrey we will see.
Whether it's forecast holds true as Republicans try to find something to do so that they -- separate but it was illegal immigration Terry thank you for your -- thank you have a super duper weekend okay Internet here's some things -- you -- think about.
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Now President Obama is floating leaking leaking imploding and -- lifting on this a question of that he is now ready.
To talk about making changes to entitlement programs including the much vaunted and venerated Social Security.
In order to obtain a full year budget deal from Republicans.
But is -- Lucy to their Charlie Brown will he yanked the football away and leave Republicans.
With that aching backs that's some good question.
I think we should export more don't you.
So let's say hi to our friend your friend my friend -- -- -- is a partner.
Of singer -- strategies and owner of the -- in the aptly named banking company is formerly top talker for house Republicans and it's senate Republicans that he's worked on both sides of Capitol Hill makes him a Republican strategist and good -- welcome -- thank you so we're forever.
-- -- Julie were jet skiing whom you also liked so much is a former communications director.
For Jon Corzine she is a Fox News contributor that makes for a Democrat in good standing.
How are you happy Friday.
Happy Friday -- and -- -- not wearing neckties so that we can further titillate the Internet with visions of our Adam's apple I I -- to be a pretty big deal.
I can't even see you guys seem to be naked rhino and it don't matter just I I can't see.
I can just thank you lab black image.
Thank thank heaven for small favors and I definitely saw like is all I can tell you all right so do -- The president is.
The White House is floating today.
It's getting a little bit lost in these jobs numbers that are out today but they're floating today the idea that the president is again open to the idea of making changes to entitlement programs.
Is he for real is he really trying to get a full year budget deal.
Where is he trying to.
Fake out the Republicans.
Well you know I was as good as -- kind of standing is is set I saw the chains CPI that he was proposing in the cuts to Medicare reimbursement it obviously is as a good -- -- got a little scared.
Because we don't like those kinds of things and then thank god in like -- Knight in shining armor comes in John Boehner.
With center for the non starter this isn't gonna go anywhere and I -- thank you John Boehner for killing this president's proposal before it even got proposed.
So I don't know the answer the question but I I know that John Boehner is gonna kill whatever the president proposed.
So I guess and go through sectors as -- talking about it but it seems to me like it's I never gonna become law.
Well we've got like four minutes left in this segment to go up and I can't you can't take it away now.
Robyn my life and on the ground -- okay.
-- think of what we dropped the Mike.
That's right -- -- the Bernie Sanders doesn't like it either liberal -- all right John John Boehner is not the only one.
But I have to think this is -- increase pressure on the red team.
To give the president some of what he wants in terms of tax increases.
And restoring spending to read sequestration levels and stuff like that for the next four year.
So this is a very interesting move by president about it because he was you know this this follows the you know the bill.
The dinner they had with you know better than -- did the meetings that he's had with Republican members this is an effort to try to soften him up and show.
That he is looking to compromise on issues of being accused of running a permanent campaigning -- Republicans.
And I think that everyone knows that this budget proposal would -- his most would be dead in the water anyway I think that it you know look.
Republicans were going to oppose it but the left -- it would have been nice to the -- give would have given it a couple of days.
Because I think the left wing would have come out and just -- things like to -- and you know you've got speaker saying.
Rightly what Republicans are thinking but I think he should have visited a couple more days.
Well wolf here lots more -- about this budget.
-- between now and Wednesday when it lands.
How serious -- in general do you think the president is.
About making concessions in order to get a full year.
Budget -- because it's obvious from these jobs numbers today.
That it would be helpful if we quit playing fiscal plan though and had some predictability in the next year right right.
Well he's tried any -- the grand bargain back in 2011 I think John Boehner in good faith tried to come up with some sort of bargain with him.
And then in comes -- cancer in admitted that he scuttle the whole deal.
So at this point you know it's it's a problem because no -- trust -- -- neither side trusts the other nobody wants really negotiates.
I think the president is putting out something -- that he knows a lot of liberals are going to pose as Ron just said.
And the reason he's probably doing that in part is because he knows that no matter how conciliatory he appears and I have no matter how reasonable he appears.
John Boehner because of the pressures he has from his own caucus is gonna say this is a non starter.
And here the Republicans are gonna look at a reasonable again and we're gonna go back to exactly -- the paradigm has been for the past four years.
And and really has -- the Republicans a lot of political clouds in the last election -- -- run.
The Republicans used to be very scared you you remember there's a -- -- -- security reform -- that Republicans.
-- their britches and and sprinted away from in this in the first face of difficulty under George W.
And it it went away it was like we were kidding we definitely did not mean to.
Privatize Social Security.
They've gotten very bold about talking about this subject subsequently.
Paul -- selection of Mitt are.
You know not yet ready to get around this election of Paul Ryan.
To be is running it was sort of the affirmation of this and really in the wake of the changes to Medicare under the president's 2010 health law.
This is kind of -- a third -- -- this is symbolic this kind of stuff.
Well first of all let you know back on the last -- I just wanna make sure that you know Republicans have given the president 600 billion dollars in tax increases so they don't feel.
Any pressure to move anymore took president's poll numbers have dropped -- handling the economy has dropped he's trying to come to the table make himself look like a compromiser.
This budget proposal he knows it's going to fall right through the right through the basement floor.
And you know I'm on the Social Security Medicare issue Republicans do -- line.
Entitlement changes in turnover -- because we have generations new -- -- generations.
But folks that are going to swamp these programs and if we don't fix and now they're just threw me a lot more in later.
Having to -- that the president has given Republicans cover now.
By offering changes to -- war and that that is helpful that takes the -- away from Democrats who wanted to bash any Republican -- for Paula.
And I think he's certainly third rail it's now just tingle instead of a deadly shock.
All right Julie -- -- Okay if you were an attorney general you would be I think you'd be way ahead.
That I want you to know that I once knew that but you also.
Fair minded to patients and patriotic so thank him and I am not offended by that comment at all keep coming that's great -- that's exactly that's that's what we're talking about -- power -- no -- Friday Adam's apple Friday.
I machine you would not be more attractive than demolish errors but you're our good friend an asset to this and that telecast -- -- is an honor to be here.
Are -- Internet we're gonna take a quick break we'll come back it will talk about the challenges of implementation on the president's -- What did the political portent of those things are what it has to do with jobs in the economy.
Quite a bit actually.
Will do all that with your friend of mine Jim Angle when we come back so stick around.
The law says that you're supposed to implement this in 2014.
We're very concerned.
About the approach by the agency in -- to thwart.
That was senator Maria Cantwell she is in -- Democrat and they are expressing concerns.
About the part of health and human services.
Delaying them an expanded menu of options that was supposed to be available to employees of small businesses.
Under president Obama's -- -- health law.
This is power but so that's just the latest in a string of problems of implementation.
This law is complicated beyond complicated great talks -- those 2000 pages.
That we're in the legislation that nobody read.
But it is way bigger than that it is from tens of thousands of pages of regulations and implementations.
It's behind schedule it's hard to do it's complicated.
And when things get difficult -- things get complicated you know we call.
One man for the job there is only one man for the job of and Texas size common sense even to the thorniest question at that that is our friend Jim Angle senior national correspondent.
-- chief national correspondent up.
Just titles and this -- you've already got -- I have a big board in my office just to try to keep track -- you those -- yeah exactly exactly you know that's right the Jim.
This thing is not -- together as expected right.
Now and it is that the -- they think about what you heard from senator Cantwell is that she got included.
-- used in the health care law in obamacare.
A plan that exists in the state of Washington and it's called the basic health plan options.
Now this plan is -- managed care option and it is way way way less expensive -- Obama care is how less expensive.
And this is like this we're talking about catastrophic kind of know it's managed care so that you can.
No you you'd be part of of an HMO or plan were doctors would be.
You go to the doctors in that -- -- hospital that plant.
The out of pocket costs are 14 as much.
So this is much much less expensive than Obama here.
And they delayed it for a year and senator Cantwell is a little suspicious about why the -- that she actually.
Another -- accuses them.
Of delaying it intentionally.
In order to.
Get people to sign up for the more expensive exchanges instead of using the plan that she put in there which is less expensive.
But as you say that's only one of many many problems with the more recent one was they also delayed by year woman there -- -- -- -- small businesses who have a harder time getting.
Reasonably -- -- reasonably priced insurance.
It they delayed by a year a special exchange for them then you have the individual exchanges.
Number of states have refused to set up on their own -- the federal government will have to do it and that's why many suspect with these other problems that have come along.
That the administration is way behind even though it insists it is not.
Yeah it was a Christmas we could get off on this thing on October 1 Iraq because people think can look at -- exchanges they -- shop around is that what they want on January when they can pick.
-- I have before -- -- -- real quickly we see that there are 663.
Thousand more people left the job market do the YouTube world and employment land.
And our labor force participation has at the lowest point since may -- 1979.
Is this a reversible -- The problem is that.
They're the critics will say the problem is that the president's policies -- -- taxes and high debt.
Are dragging down you -- The president has.
Declined to jump in on the -- -- the -- some claim and what you hear people those I'd say it's austerity.
Austerity is what you get in Cyprus and Greece and Portugal and Spain -- so sick scared you're banking and you got to figure out -- -- shift for a running up debt.
Some -- some a couple of professors have done a study that debt drags down economic growth right now that is the problem.
You know it's funny to me I just have to say.
People are blaming sequestration.
Where these these horrible jobs numbers.
Who the heck was talking about sequestration more than anybody else and warning of its disaster I remember there was a guy out there was that guy who likes Kamal Harris so much and he was that they're talking about it every day's -- -- the jobs problem has been around in a wee bit stagnant or -- economy and very -- job growth.
Since the president's been an office seekers we will circle acampora because when he comes in here he just cuts down all the weeds are you intensity down in the bottom etc.
-- You don't always like which you find under the gently as the old crush you have advantages yeah -- Jim always always said -- straight for -- we thank you so much the voter are you are kind okay Internet.
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You should -- -- Internet today's SharePoint eighty million dollars -- a lot of money so what's eighty million dollars.
It that's how much money was paid.
Two households that had.
An income of more than one million dollars a year.
During what we now call the Great Recession which is sort of self flattering junk but yes during that recession that we just had.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- Eighty million dollars in unemployment benefits.
Went to households with annual incomes of a million dollars or more holy -- -- now so here's your first PowerPoint.
Not insurance we used to call this unemployment insurance employers who pay and and then you get half OK and then it was point six weeks we did all of us have that that -- We went up to 99 weeks almost two years of this subsidized by the federal government isn't direct transfer from taxpayers to unemployed people.
And this went on and on and on.
And rich people are not stupid that's by -- rich in most cases and they said if I lose my job on Wall Street it's not like I'm not going to take.
So give me my check.
Send -- what you can't blame them that's how the system is constitute that's how it operates and Americans even those who are concerned about debt deficit spending and all of that a very easily rationalized at some point if I pay for it it's -- -- Why should I not take my the other thing that we should remember here is some of those households probably include kids.
Adult children or people who are dependents teenage dependence.
Those -- include those people who maybe you're having to fend for themselves of them getting typically take them on Friday out on the weekends.
That that's the truth and the third PowerPoint today showed -- pop.
So pop -- pop right.
I can't remember exactly what I meant -- that down but I can't tell you this.
That it's going to get busy if we do not figure out a way to.
Reconcile and deal with unemployment this thing -- went from being.
An insurance program to being an entitlement.
And it's not so it's not so cool anyway there's your power winter's day now as we like to do every day normally do with the border from our French -- It's what he has done completely in contradiction.
To what he promised as a candidate -- way he's.
He's out there raising money at the beginning of a second term when he ought to be here working on the budget on two quest for an all these other issues.
But now he is the essence of exactly the system.
That he denounce any promise he would messianic we redeem.
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