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Hello everybody I'm Eric Bolling.
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In a minute but first to those teachers and administrators in Atlanta accused of inflating standardized test scores to win performance bonuses.
Some even reportedly throwing.
Pizza parties while changing incorrect answers and now teachers unions are saying.
It's the government's test -- policies that are pressuring educators to improve scores.
Blame the teachers were cheating.
When the tests blame.
The teachers they're the ones that are failing forward and fast and increasing their salaries in getting -- -- -- with pensions.
While we are graduating kids they can't even read -- at a fourth or fifth grade level there are literate in -- -- and even to the economy because they're not going to be able to get a good job to support and thousand have become welfare and entitlement depended.
I'm giving the teachers a big -- on this one.
Plus a little cry babies they want to blame it on the test came on that but that's the way to union rolls.
They -- what about those -- cry babies it's by the way Randi Weingarten the head of the American Federation of Teachers that we are over testing our kids so what are she teaches the post did they got -- Well I I blame the teachers but I also -- the test -- mean they're both.
Products of the public school system of government dominated school system and as a -- -- reason like cheating is much more widespread in in governments schools and public schools.
-- private schools some estimates actually two times is much more prevalent -- only among the students but among the teachers will mean there's been incidents like this and in Philadelphia for example you have a centrally planned economy.
Where funding is determined by arbitrary test of course teachers are gonna -- and -- parents were forced to support these schools because of Texas have no real recourse to cut them -- -- -- what about there's a lot of money at stake here than department or Al bed.
Spend somewhere around a 10010.
Billion dollars year.
No Child Left Behind somewhere around thirty billion dollars a year a lot of this stuff is based on performance but should teachers be cheating.
No there's no excuse for this and it's not just teachers salaries its resources for the schools that are at stake -- no child left right.
And race's top there's actually no excuse for this this is a total scandalous -- not just in -- -- at Atlanta it's occurred about six or seven other cities as well.
You have to give I think the Obama administration and the Bush Administration credit.
We're sticking to their guns on the importance of standardized testing and the importance of merit pay for teachers in terms -- were important reforms.
In public schools.
That said there is I think a worthwhile debate about whether we are -- -- spending too much time an emphasis on testing.
And some schools that teachers are spending sixty to seventy days out of the school year on test preparation and there are other measures in terms of education before right.
Other than just testing so while there is actually no excuse for the -- they should be published.
There's no excuse for cheating anywhere whether it's and in Nevada -- is his girlfriend until we're I want to get -- Tracy -- here Tracy's -- disingenuous to blame the -- that -- wonder what's she doing talking.
Blaming the tests.
Because -- doesn't have another answer for there's no other excuse sports and what's she gonna blame you can't take you can't blame yourself.
In the -- needs for something you know look I would tell you that my kids will be the first to tell you that.
All they do is prepare for tests lately that's what it feels like at the same time though.
These teachers have -- he came to this profession for a reason right do your job.
They're so many great teachers out there and -- telling your story like this it kill the entire profession.
We need to -- test but we also need other ways to measure these kids and measure.
Our teachers -- time why do you have a solution not also why do you think the kids and parents our running out of these -- public schools that are failing their children and going to other alternatives spike.
Private schools charter schools voucher system that is proven track -- -- actually educating children.
Vs just teachers interested in making sure that -- look at -- meet the numbers you -- that I wanted to and it hits it hits it become really hits the nail on the -- private schools by larger are focused not on meeting these arbitrary test coming from from DC -- from local government but I'm actually educating students and it when it -- that it was standing things like -- there's smoke and most private schools that I don't have zero tolerance policies on cheating for teachers or students the public schools should follow that -- -- Unfair statement there are some worry public schools out there and again.
We beat them up we beat this system up anytime we find a crappy district bed -- on their kids and unfortunately anyway you got -- Even the price you can we you're gonna fight didn't you think Rihanna then you are you gonna find the reason I don't Frito-Lay didn't have a police.
Right -- -- -- don't know what are gonna get rid of I I know you have this kind of eighteenth century view that we should get rid of all public schools that's not gonna happen what we need to do was to reform public schools.
And on your point about what happens in the private system.
I mean look there was admitted there was a case in recent months where the university's.
We're experiencing major cheating in terms of the standardized tests with as a very private so it's not true that doesn't just happen and post it.
It does its doctrine that just happens in the government you have the -- to dominate higher education dyslexic government that dominates lower educational -- does talk about telegram's.
What what what he does it government -- -- -- It does not could not make -- person.
Did she she knew it didn't cheat whether you're in a private schooling at a Catholic school year in a public I'm not I'm.
I'm really not -- having tutors and I didn't hear them to sing it happens a lot more in public schools vs private -- -- -- market.
Yeah apparently do that I just heard a bit.
That's important -- it's -- about the test the topic is about the test and I tell you what you need to magic these kids somehow we need to see how.
They're doing let me let me Jillian you need to -- -- teachers have Julian what what about it shouldn't isn't Kimberly right -- more of this funding go towards the voucher system.
What people have school choice.
I'm all for some kind of system that it gives.
It is school choice I'd like -- charter schools a lot.
The problem with the voucher system as was proposed in 2005.
Was that it was never going to be enough money to fund.
A two to find a a competitive local private school -- the government just wasn't gonna -- that kind of money we don't have -- kind of money in the budget.
So mall for competition and call for competition -- charter schools.
Public schools -- for some support a private schools.
But that I think -- a simple question we do need reform of the public school system -- for a lot of students that's the only option.
And I think Obama and President Bush O'Donnell water should get a lot of plaudits here for their simple -- standard I'd apologize you're gonna get on -- You're -- your airport here -- -- I wanna go once around what should happen to these -- -- -- start with you Kimberly fire and pull a teaching licenses.
Yes I am given the bit how are they an example to students have been no character integrity they're cheaters and liars out what about interest what do we do these higher pay Julie what do we -- -- these teachers.
Far -- men and I think they're going to be prosecuted as well never gonna buy you Jonathan.
Fire the teachers and -- the schools finally produced some moderate rain coming.
-- the education system that's dominated by government and failing because of it are we look we're gonna leave it there guys.
Did Trace who -- Johnson have to show I can take advantage of that conversation.
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