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This week more roadblocks for Obama care and some of the push back is coming from the president's own party.
79 senators including 33 Democrats agreed to repeal.
A new tax on medical devices contained in the health care law.
It was largely a symbolic vote that nonetheless shows a growing unease with the cost of the president's health care overhaul so what is the bottom line.
For Americans as the October deadline approaches we're back with -- -- -- and -- Russell and also joining the panel.
Editorial board member Joe -- so Joseph rice as I read this week that even liberal columnists are beginning to us to worry about the pace of this rollout.
You been warning about it for more than a year.
What's the big problem.
Right -- does what.
What HHS with the Health and Human Services Department in the White House never really realize was how big of a task they've taken on.
Trying to re re re doing a six of the economy they didn't figure that -- I did in the head.
I -- that so we're we're now six months away from the starts in October this year in your son is seen growing misgivings and even panic.
Will be exchanged.
Be ready what happens supreme will think what -- four.
What the it's going to be a really close all HHS is running the exchanges -- of the market alleged marketplaces for our people will get subsidize insurance.
In 33 states and this week it came to light.
That for small businesses they will have a choice of one -- plan in the exchanges where -- Chief Justice.
It was one of big selling points you're supposed to be able to big choice big menu of pop planned to be able to pick now you get Vanilla or Vanilla or Vanilla right and how are you want to.
-- -- So.
I mean the other promise that we heard about -- you would get lower health care cost right right.
But did but it does now we've seen announcements all over the place in -- they're going up for substantial numbers of people right.
Competition is what's supposed to drive down costs now we find out there won't be any competition but.
On top of that there's all kinds of new rules and regulations coming into place that are going to be driving up premiums.
Probably twenty to 30% on average for people in the individual and small business -- -- -- 30% on average were even more potentially for some people who were younger.
Younger I'm -- younger and healthier people in their 20s30s and forties could see.
-- 100% premium increases in triple what they're paying now you know.
Much richer benefits and -- 90%.
Of the plans in the market and -- scare mongering here this is these are things that people in the marketplace.
Are talking about when it when this happened in California all the people -- premiums are gonna go up from one point three million people who are self insured and about 30%.
They had comments from the people who support the program saying well look this is a subsidy program somebody has to pay for it -- the money has to come from somewhere -- -- admitted.
The premiums were going to rise for some of these middle class people.
Kim -- what about the political fallout of this I mean we saw those votes I talked about not that vote I talked about a medical.
Device tax I mean -- -- Al Franken and Elizabeth Warren and some delivered very Liberal Democrats voting to repeal this thing -- Is this a sign that the coalition the democratic support is being afraid.
Yeah I mean these were the guys who let me some of these people were demanding a single Payer system back at a time now they're worried about what -- is doing a market competition.
And and that the device -- was the only one example we've also had.
And just recently totally reverse itself on its decision to to cut more than was necessary for Medicare Advantage which is the -- the Medicare program where seniors use private insurance the very popular program never -- and got it more money than even the -- called for Intel -- what -- bipartisan revolt of Democrats and Republicans who wrote letters and so now -- -- restoring some of that funding why because seniors like it and so.
You have a lot of Democrats themselves or having second thoughts on all that Joseph what does this.
-- about the popularity of the law overall has it changed and we haven't of a poll that results recently it doesn't look like it's any more popular now than it was when it passed which is almost unheard of for any new entitlement.
That's right and and the first few years are really going to be what's gonna turn determine the fate of this law over the long term if you see people sort of which is these huge surges in their in their print engine on the subsidies don't offset them -- rather.
Just much larger disruptions in the market I think you're gonna see the unpopularity of the law.
Increase -- you might have something like what you had in the late 1980s.
With catastrophic coverage and Medicare.
Where they pass it and it was rolled back a year later now.
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