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News today that Maggie Thatcher is dead as the Europe she -- in the US and admired remain -- in this political gridlock.
The former British prime minister being remembered today as a woman -- backbone and warnings of a growing nanny state.
-- got out of step with I want I don't know today.
Plus the odd -- never -- is saying.
Is that he -- all of the follow up tour.
Body did not mention goodness of rich and that's ready will never appreciate the wells told that -- I'm not just -- yeah spewing all I have a pot photo.
Former UK parliament member John Brown knew her well joins me now and a weird juxtaposition today right.
You think you'll -- -- -- it's going on right now.
And John I -- I dare say it's sort of like the flip.
-- Yes I've been listening -- conversation with the last start contributes.
And I think that things will go on men have present Don -- no way and -- to look things either of two things occur one as we get leadership.
Like we had on the moderate -- term President Reagan with people who believed in fundamental principles.
Good of the principle of freedom where they would didn't just tall right missed on what to -- -- politicians they actually walked the walk and delivered.
And the other alternative is when the bomb markets refused to bio debt as happened in -- -- -- and force these governments and politicians to actually act.
And the same thing what happened in Europe and the United States if we still continue on the present -- -- -- But you know you don't you think that that's what she was warning about right -- that is growing nannies statin then.
In the face of that and not in the best environment seen you know led these very very big -- some would call them.
Austerity on steroids today and at least ideal time it's -- particular line was when is a good time to cut you cellmate.
But but -- went bad and stuck with that and dealt with.
The world while single digit poll numbers doing that.
We're there staff abandoning our key aides questionnaire.
She stuck by that we see too many European leaders today.
Who are backing away from the tough Madison.
Anytime they can't.
It integrated on the head I mean Shia and like President Reagan they had one -- had courage.
Enormous courage -- -- conviction on the courage to follow it through.
And that meant self sacrifice and of course in the end that tenants and their own party stabbed at a death and a sea of blood knee deep.
Because they couldn't take the heat they didn't have the courage that she had.
And she said it like it wasn't did it delivered.
And people in the end began to respect -- enormously and she achieved things.
Which seemed to be impossible I'm in Britain in 1979 was giggling his way into the ocean she lifted it up lifted -- -- And together with President Reagan.
Gave us the great strategic piece that we enjoy today I mean it was a fantastic achievement.
I was talking about my mind it's our right front and on you talked about sacrificing -- that image that you mean would you say you say would you mean.
But out of Europe today austerity -- them.
Is is more about hiking taxes there is that any real.
Cutting and I'm wondering if we're getting the wrong impression of austerity is not a lot of cutting.
There is a lot of taxing.
Well yes the -- a sort of backhanded cops.
And you've got two things going on in Europe you've got the general Europeans who want to be more like be anger Americans.
And just -- in the -- produced more printed money.
And then you -- -- diamonds who won the medicine is austerity.
And it's a question of who wins within the Arab.
-- -- believe that Germany will win in the end in Europe will go through a great period of very painful austerity but will come I'd better and stronger.
In the long run and believe it or not I'd be short the yen and Longley.
And the thing is that -- if you don't go that route you have to have leaders and leaders are ran hand we have President Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.
Who would leaders who -- convinced who had the courage.
To overcome this and to inspire people you don't get that order politicians -- navigate -- -- him until left false to -- the bond market.
It's our bond market when they can't sell a -- anymore that forces -- in the end just as it's forced countries Portugal today cut back on its.
As security and his -- and we'll see and they will they follow up on that but John Brown.
Always good -- you might -- I know you're not really register from Brooklyn but it works every time we have you want.
Donna I'm hundreds of course meanwhile.
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