Power Play 4/11/13
Senate wrangles over gun vote. Hopes fray for full-year fiscal deal. Plus - Health law casts shadowson 2014.
Apr 11, 2013
Richard Fowler, Mike Emanuel, Brad Blakeman
Senate wrangles over gun vote. Hopes fray for full-year fiscal deal. Plus - Health law casts shadowson 2014.
Apr 11, 2013
Richard Fowler, Mike Emanuel, Brad Blakeman
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And that is the floor.
The United States senate -- today they're going to be voting on gun control measures and this is power play and I -- -- -- well.
Well it's been five months since that is tragic shootings the massacre in Newtown Connecticut and today.
At the behest and demand of President Obama and many of the families in -- and there will be some voting.
On this subject in the senate but to what -- it amount.
We will explore that question today who talk about that we will also talk about possibilities for a full year fiscal deal.
If they could be -- I guess they've -- -- -- But we will talk about that and also we will talk about the political ramifications of the president's health law.
-- is is administration seeks to implement it and it's having some pick up -- -- ups I would do all of that.
We'll have our points it will be interest and it will be revealing it will be eliminated because already eliminated.
Is AB Stoddard she is your friend mine she is a columnist for the village is an editor -- -- -- -- And I'm assigning editor Ratner well right me too.
Right exactly I added myself right and it could happen.
And not always successfully I got right back I make an attempt I often try so welcome may -- Thank you Chris yes we shall see.
But I believe that if I call out here into the Internet darkness Mike Emanuel will answer -- Mike are you out there.
I hear echo -- there might -- like assailants Mike can you hear me.
So I design if you can hear us.
I area this -- it's.
Now Mike tell us this.
Are we going to what kind of votes are we gonna see young gun control -- and these these measures today in this.
Well it's procedural vote that's taken place right now that is expected to demonstrate that they have sixty votes to essentially move forward with debate on the issue.
You have Republicans like Lindsey Graham saying sure let's debate the Second Amendment he's voting in favor.
Essentially starting the process of talking about the issue.
The reaction has been interesting -- -- Chuck Schumer a veteran of a lot of these battles over the years says it's going to be a struggle next week to get to sixty votes.
He's predicting that the NRA will documents members to load up this legislation with amendments that will.
Ultimately kill it Richard Blumenthal from.
Connecticut who's been out front trying to push -- forward being of the state where the new town.
Tragedy took place he called -- -- historic moment said for months ago this was untouchable.
This shows that.
They were wrong essentially and so he seemed pretty excited pretty out front on it.
-- numbers seemed a lot more cautious recognizing this is only the start of the struggle certainly not the end -- Okay so we have any compromise package from.
A red state Democrat Joseph mansion in a blue state Republican Pat Toomey.
To expand background checks.
But what you're telling us here is that the concern among gun control advocates is that even that might not get through because the amendments that would be added to the bill over time would make it impossible to -- That's right in my understanding is from talking with people close to both mansion and to me is that they had the NRA.
Involved in these discussions says they were trying to hammer out a compromise.
But the -- NRA Chris Cox sent a letter to senators strongly opposing this compromise measure.
Saying that essentially expanding background checks will not protect our children anymore.
And of the NRA obviously put out -- lengthy document essentially.
Arguing for the idea of putting armed staff.
An -- staff member in each school to better protect schools.
And so they -- against -- and so as the days go by you can expect that pressure will build on some of these senators.
In rural states in red states.
Go against the ultimate measure when it comes up on the floor.
Okay Mike Emanuel he knows things he's Smart he talks to people that's what we talked and thanks -- thing right.
-- -- so did -- take away from Mike there is basically that.
Yeah they're gonna start voting but this thing is looking worse now because.
There is a bipartisan there is some bipartisan consensus.
On the idea of having an expanded background check -- by the time this thing gets done being amended from the left and the right there.
That it will be an un passable pass.
Well that's always the possibility mean that's that's that's the process.
We like to actually see the senate bound amending bills right that is -- -- that is rather than usual sort of exciting so so it's a free for all we'll see where it goes in the a lot of strategy about how to kill this bill.
From one side a lot of you know clinging to hope from the other side.
In the end it as we've you know agreed to anything and ends up passing will be watered down from what the gun control coalition had hoped for.
The bill they'll call -- victory a victory anyone that they -- And I think that the key thing is for.
For that expanded not universal expanded background check -- you write that mansion and Jimmy came up with that they spend as much as it.
Energy that they can to try to bring in.
Enough people to get that passed.
And that would be sort of the main headline of this bill the school -- to safety several poppy you know meaningful that.
Even the gun trafficking restrictions won't be so it's it's it's important that that after.
Trying to come to this first really the kind of high profile -- -- bipartisan -- -- seen out of senator while that that they really push hard in the in the coming hours and days.
But it is true any poison pills that make it onto the bill.
-- will -- it for a lot of people and puts its passage in jeopardy.
-- you know and I did.
I mean a lot of things but once -- done so many -- some ups and downs and it.
One other thing that I've done -- -- crafted a column for the the present where you Internet.
And you if you follow me at sea -- you'll already have a -- -- -- him credit from the minute.
But you -- already had -- and in the end I would say that this column and Everett today these lame imitation.
And I laments the fact that a moment of actual opportunity for a broader national discussion about what was the cause of these mass shootings how to prevent them.
And all of that.
Only lasted like two weeks and then we were back in 21994.
Although -- and and gun control and did -- I believe I said -- -- rivers were grabbing and the cold dead Enders were gripping tighter and it was over.
You make a good point -- and this obviously is a complicated issue and it involves many other things besides.
Besides guns and this is not.
There was not enough -- sweeping effort made by both parties.
On to talk to different.
Industry -- at people who are experts in mental health ways that we could.
Get help to people who need it.
Faster in the case of the Virginia Tech shooting as you know the judge deems him mentally ill that -- and share the information the FBI.
And he had a background check him legally bought.
Bunch of guns took the lives of so many people so it's it's it if you look at it into the video gaming industry all these different aspects of how.
Violence especially with these types of weapons of war is glorified in our culture.
How accessible they are and how inaccessible information on people's mental health.
Problems is it's a bad combination and we're this is really -- -- sake and -- incremental step even if it passes.
It has a steep challenge out of the senate into that house.
-- -- that we're gonna -- we're going to cheer ourselves up in the next segment because we're gonna talk about the growing and possibilities of a full year fiscal plan.
We'll do that when we come back so stick around.
An adjustment to the cost of living increase an adjustment of inflation -- how we measure inflation and it's not a it's not a specific tax provision it's an adjustment and in our inflation and it's one that the Republican leadership asked for which is not a preferred policy -- we believe.
In the spirit of finding common ground that it is an acceptable part of a broader package.
It was Jay Carney on that report with -- there is white house Press Secretary and there.
Channeling -- mails from caddie saying I didn't want to give you changed CPI.
But I thought you earned it saying the Republicans yes.
It does also constitute -- it big tax increase on the middle class.
As people get bumped -- higher tax brackets at faster rates at a hundred million dollars a year the Wall Street Journal a hundred billion dollars the Wall Street Journal said today.
It's a lot of Jack.
And it's just one of many problems facing and remember.
It's not just the presidents but it's everybody's budget and it's the possibility of something being done.
And this is.
Yeah that's true fact.
And it's also true that today's -- is gracious and helpful.
For as long as power play has been on the Internet there.
We have talked about the possibility.
-- -- -- no one has helped me to -- deviancy down on it budgets.
More than you know Owen -- can -- down and budget -- -- -- but I have to say I'm -- little better than new do blow as yeah.
I want to -- for the first time on your show ever that I feel a little hopeful about tax reform if I feel I I feel that senator Max Baucus Democrat on the senate side.
And Republican Dave Camp Republican on the house side if they work they're both earnestly want this and -- there and they're hard at work.
And if they get into the weeds on -- and and and really work hard and wanna -- something over the finishing line I believe it could.
Not be tied and may be tied to a debt ceiling increase -- a big big deal that deals with -- CPI and maybe you know some more Medicare reform maybe not.
The odds are against my about my hopes but -- just sign I see that sign.
The non Obama Mitch McConnell Biden -- -- Crowd is busy at work and earnestly wants to St.
Joe Manchin did to really get something off the ground and if it.
If -- if they're gonna look at a big tax reform package everyone's everything's going there will be kids.
-- sure right I mean if it -- and sort of that's what this whole thing is contingent on the possibility of passing.
Is again what we're talking about here remember this people talk about a big deal now.
Really just talking about budget this is where this is where we are now -- -- gone -- the ideas of generational reform.
But what we're really talking about is can -- divided Washington -- up a plan.
To cover spending and borrowing man.
Don't need to raise the debt -- about July rim really from October 1 until September 31 of the next -- -- they come -- -- -- to do that.
And if it's gonna happen as you say it's.
Tax reform of the board of abroad -- the only way that you can get this done and they seem like they're pretty far for what would be in that war.
-- -- for the fact that they're both.
You know actually working on that they don't think that it's a waste time as John Boehner actually sent a few months ago that he completely it's time.
-- the fact that campaign and baucus are are are trying to attack it.
And the fact that the president you know when the president comes up -- the budget crescent says this is my final offer that's not true says Democrats are hoping.
Those opposed to you know fixing this or security costs of living adjustment rate.
In they're hoping it's a final offer but it's -- You don't put final offers on paper so I believe there's more room on more -- from the president.
And I think.
Tax reform if this does two principals think it's worth investing the time and energy and it it we actually might see your product so.
You never -- how else really get the debt ceiling increase.
It's -- -- the president is gonna have to compromise so there's there's all the doors open hateful.
We were told he wasn't gonna have to compromise what he's gonna do would -- use that organizing for action.
Which is which is also going to be the name of the nightclub and that I open across town.
It's gonna use organizing for actually is gonna hit the campaign trillions to keep the pressure on Republicans -- -- if you really want.
Until Americans all treated that they wanted to debt -- -- -- mean there's going to be able to come on there's going to be some kind of -- 1000.
And you aren't you wanna stand.
AB would you like to know about.
Vote breakdown cloture on the -- -- yes I think he would I think that's what you've been dying to know all right here's what we -- to.
This just happened to Democrats voted against.
The sixty that you need to get to sixty again later.
Two of them Mark -- mark baggage voted against not surprising that they -- they're both facing difficult reelection fights.
In gun -- -- states Alaska and Arkansas.
So that's that's that.
Republicans voting to advance.
From New Hampshire Johnny Isaacson from Georgia Jeff flake from Arizona Susan Collins of Maine John McCain for -- and Richard Burr of North Carolina.
Bob corporate tennis -- Dean Heller Nevada John -- North Dakota Saxby Chambliss of Georgia Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania Mark Kirk of Illinois Roger Wicker of Mississippi.
Lamar Alexander Tennessee Lindsey Graham so that's like the -- -- that is basically the center right issue.
Part of the Republican Party these and not -- these are not these are from sort of the left edge of the Republican Party but reaching pretty far into the senator -- party.
It's really when Johnny Isaacson became like a potential swing voter and -- conference.
You know things have changed.
Stout but a political significance pew Internet and do remember this and watch this as we head into mid terms Kay Hagan.
She's a Democrat from North Carolina Jeanne Shaheen a Democrat New Hampshire.
Mark Warner from Virginia and Mary -- heard from Louisiana all four of them could mark one.
-- -- Lou we can just go at now where -- safe now but certainly for the other three -- -- states that are pro gun.
Where the NRA and other gun rights groups are.
They've voted to advance in the legislation this could prove problematic for them later and guess what that problem -- anything but in the end so that 88 may have gotten a lot out of your presence you Perez you have indeed enlightened us -- you always do.
I just tried to bring some -- here today yeah I'm I'm I'm.
I'm just -- Does -- aliases so good yeah -- I can't wait until bipartisan accord on taxation sweeps across town.
Michael a brush -- I'm just I'm I'm I'm counting on bill signings everywhere.
Tax reform guns immigration just.
It -- lots are Rose Garden ceremony.
He -- less coffee that's me.
Record with thank you can -- that okay Internet if you're gonna do we're gonna take a quick break because we got to get our panel right.
Is there gonna talk to you about the president's health care law and -- its implementation or lack thereof is going to affect.
The process of choosing -- members of congress we vote in the elections next year we talk about that when we come back system.
-- has been relentless and continuous there was some hope that.
Once -- Supreme Court ruled in July and then once an election occurred.
There would be a sense that this is the -- the lamb let's get on board let's make this work.
And yet we find ourselves still.
Have saying it sort of state by state.
Eight political battles.
And that surprising expression of surprise -- came from Kathleen Sebelius the secretary of health and human services for the United States that are government.
This is power play and -- -- is there was talking at Harvard all of us.
Where she was talking about it that they were surprised that after the Supreme Court had allowed the president's -- audio and place.
That people like I don't know Rick Perry hadn't said you know what what the heck let's just let it roll I'm I'm I'm happy about this now.
But what she's talking about in a larger sense is that as the president's health law.
-- into view and people like Joseph Klein time and other places.
Have written at length about this pick ups the bumps in the road is this is -- known place.
And part of it is the obstructionism.
Republican governors in some states.
And part of it is.
This sucker is unwieldy.
-- all it's a big deal and it's hard to put into place and it was constructed and hugely convoluted manner that involves private insurance companies and the government and employers and individuals.
It's it's if it's -- tough point.
But as that goes forward.
-- what are the implications for the election yes we have to talk about that election because it is going to be rather big deal.
And people know that it's a big deal and know how policies can affect politics.
Are your friend Bradley men whom weakness we've not had enough blatantly.
A former senior advisor to president George W.
And it always welcome guest here and professor at Georgetown University.
Even though we're team destroyed my brackets that.
With the earth and Richard Fowler who is the host of the aptly named Richard -- show.
Which you can listen to in Washington -- WP WZ 1480.
Or on the Internet and or anywhere on the globe dia met syndicated around her out of -- -- boom look at that -- think that we don't ever get enough Fowler either.
And before we get into this is -- -- Wednesday.
Spread the there's a book out book coming out the White House photographer Eric bravery book.
That's coming out that I got to see that they've had a little bit of it on the television and I saw I think I -- a couple.
-- a couple of those shots that you are asked for a cut.
Yeah I probably -- yeah.
And I definitely think he's mister president yeah.
The -- if you didn't taste.
OK so the question it is.
As this health law which -- political thinking Richard was.
Delaying the implementation of the onerous parts that things that are hard to implement hard to do potentially unpopular until after that point twelve election get the president reelected.
And then drive to implementation.
But now we're seeing that giving that up and running -- in place in a way that people start like the results.
Before November manager who beat him.
Well I think you know I don't think -- -- into the election I think there's a lot of putting bread is good -- that point but I think it took time for them to -- this exchange of every all fifty states have to have succeed for those states.
That's not doing their exchange what's the lowest -- like -- in the shuttle Columbia where they started.
Right after the bill is passed it to build their exchanges that it's going to be let you -- for them implemented when he fourteen for other states.
I -- Texas or state that have chosen for the federal government that -- exchanger states that have said we're gonna wait to see what Supreme Court says for weeks at a bar exchange.
For those states is going to be a challenge to get up and running on time I think Jan -- that it -- though there's no reason as why would the Republican governor governor or democratic government who reject free money coming into your state coffers to cover the expansion of Medicaid to those folks don't -- don't have health insurance Freeman is very popular we've looked -- -- -- news service people like free money.
But just the rock implementation of this aside from what the states and that's what's it is a great time there.
Just implement -- we've already seen things like.
The expanded options for small business employees that I'd expect that the they're doing something this big it's hard.
And we think back to Bush Administration being Medicare part.
Right sure but look nothing's free and with the federal government did is they suckered in the states.
We will we will provide a 100% the cost than we understand it gets what in the states are.
Left holding the bag and they can't even make.
Ends meet today so look this is all about politics Obama told us we knew that Obama told us that -- 2014.
It's going to be fully implemented now of course they say it will not be fully implement that they don't want to fully implemented and that's where Republicans command and hold democrats' feet to the fire.
Is we were promised something.
And we got something much less we have now dozens of states challenging.
Whether it's their responsibility to provide these exchanges -- -- Where the federal government will do it or they will do it this is in litigation long after Obama leaves office.
And the fact of the matter is not only the exchange of litigation regulations are also athletic -- going to -- certainty of -- Will this be -- much discussed and 1214 it's absolutely and it will be discussed.
In that the local races where the states are most affected -- The issue austere no I think -- -- -- a lot of his demented people good American consumer benefits of the program on the reelected as an investment that the president should remain -- to find divergent views but they're not divergent -- excellent gentlemen we thank you for sharing a portion of it with us today.
And I get vacuum that was to me from attorney Brent -- hit the.
OK Internet on Jonathan -- is up next I know you like that that's good news for you another sliver of good news outlets are points first today's power points.
Inmates inmates is the topic of today's power points.
And speaking of those mid term elections here's your first power -- 19321998.
As Karl Rove pointed out in opinion piece in the Wall Street -- and many others have noticed.
Those were the only three years in which the incumbent president's party gain seats in -- mid term election.
And only one of them 1998.
But second term president the second term mid term as bad.
Brad -- is still stinging from 2006.
But the the larger truth is this it was always going to be tough.
For the president to overcome this historical trend and that's just the way that that is but what's the consequence of it.
Second PowerPoint is no tie -- the broad expectation and Washington was that the 2012 collection function as a tiebreaker that after two successive wave elections -- to the left.
One to the right voters were gonna break the deadlock and decide direction which direction they want Washington to go and they didn't they declined to do that.
And instead opted for divided government for many reasons but they opted for divided government.
And now these sneaking suspicion in Washington is that they may continue to do that that you may end up still with a democratic senate and a Republican.
In a democratic president and hard to get things going so now they're all sort of inmates in this lifestyle that's the point of this here's the third PowerPoint longer view.
As you start to see negotiations but actually passing legislation occurring which is -- weird right now.
But as those discussions are going on you can credit the fact that there is this growing understanding.
Things may not change -- not change very much after the next mid term election and if that's the case.
People are either going to have to just go out and get Rick -- -- the whole time or.
Figure out some way to do business in Washington.
You are whites thank you for your time today and now as you like to do every day but work from our -- It's I think they cleverly were able to get the -- to believe.
Who do is a huge.
Nixon to China concession with the change in the calculation of inflation which creates.
A miniscule shifting of the curve on Social Security.
It's a quarter of a penny.
On the dollar.
It's a very -- -- -- and it's a technical work.
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