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We'll senators voted 68 to 31 yesterday to move forward with a gun control bill that was a cloture vote.
And it ended chances for now at least -- a Republican filibuster on this issue but the vote like they teed up a battle that we're gonna see play out on the floor next week.
There's a lot of questions about the expanded checks OK that might be implemented at this -- those that are out.
But would they have stopped.
The following -- tragedies look at how this has been put together for you hear -- -- we'll start with Adam Lanza.
All of the guns that were tied to the sandy -- shooter.
Were purchased legally by his mother -- and took the menus that we know at Atlanta had a form of optimism as well as a disorder that kept him from recognizing -- he was never.
You know convicted of any criminal action before this.
Let's go to James Holmes a -- -- movie theater massacre suspect homes had purchased his weapons legally at local gun shops.
But -- University of Colorado psychiatrist had alerted his school.
About -- potentially homicidal behavior.
They did not act therefore he was not ruled mentally unfit so he would not have come up on a background check for that and therefore he was allowed to -- the -- Now let's go to -- -- there the accused Tucson shooter.
He also purchased his weapons legally.
Here's his mental back on the campus police and is Arizona community college were alerted to disruptive classroom behavior.
But a court never declared him mentally unfit so that did not stop him from getting a weapon either let's go to the Virginia Tech shooter show.
He had no problems buying his guns he guided munition on the Internet.
-- she was legally ruled mentally unsound.
Statewide granted him access to weapons because he had never actually been.
Even though he was found to be mentally and sapped.
Join -- -- keep -- who has written a fantastic piece about the holes in this whole conversation.
When it comes to mental health.
He's a forensic psychiatrist and a member of the Fox News medical -- -- -- -- apple welcome good to have with us this morning thanks Martha.
Where the holes here I mean we talk about background checks right but but if you can't yet connect the dots here -- there's no stopping these guys.
-- exactly right.
What all this gun legislation.
Restricting firearms are increasing background checks fails tour.
Is the real problem.
Which is untreated mental illness and -- mental health care system that is completely severed.
From anything light and ability to deliver outpatient services.
On an as needed basis sometimes in voluntarily.
So we've allowed our mental health care system to become decrepit people are following through gaping holes in the system it really has nothing.
To do with guns as we just saw in the -- stabbing.
In Texas and as we should have learned in 1927.
-- 38 children were killed with homemade explosives at a school.
This whole debate should be filibustered right off the senate floor people should show up for this debate because it's just a side show.
-- me a little bit about how we can sort of bridge the gap right you have mental health professionals out there who are seeing as we just mapped out very clearly.
Issues that they're really concerned about now for for every you know.
How many people every -- -- -- people that walk to your office that you think might have some violent tendency.
Maybe only you know I don't know what percentage very -- percentage ever turns out to be one of these guys that we have on the screen.
How do how do you prevent.
The dangerous ones from from being able to purchase a gun or explosives for that matter.
What we need to build -- real system and luckily we have most of the elements of that system already in place such that.
If I were to see somebody in my officer of a teacher were to -- -- student in her classroom.
Who aroused that kind of level of concern.
It ought to be clear to whom do you make the call.
And perhaps it's a community mental health center crisis team.
They need to have a very and they exist but they -- a very clear route to the court.
Where someone can review a judge.
With a lawyer present for the person who's been identified in this all these elements -- we're just not using them -- it.
So that that person can then be in enforced outpatient care.
And if they are deemed to be inappropriate for firearm that could be put on -- universal background check.
All right so.
I didn't are psychologists and psychiatrists feeling that they don't have that power are they afraid that you know they'll be illegal backlash against them that -- will say that there dean is somebody -- -- who isn't.
I mean you know that that's a big issue here right.
Absolutely the states nor the federal government have made clear to psychiatrist neither has made clear to psychiatrists psychologists social workers teachers.
The police or anyone else how that system ought to work how the gates should open.
To allow people to get the help they need if they're dangerous that needs to be built just the communication system secondly we have to admit.
Our mental health care system is the thing that's broken.
Which is why these events are happening.
We get third party insurers were so severely restricting mental health care dollars that if they did it for diabetes you'd have people fainting in the streets from rightful place ceemea.
It's criminal and that has to change to date.
When people are deemed potentially dangerous.
A third party HMO should not be the people.
Who are restricting the number of days that those folks spend in the hospital that conversation should be prohibited and as you -- -- -- -- piece which I urge everybody to read.
Eight you that you know we've we've shut down -- -- mental institutions as well are so many of them.
That that there simply isn't a place for some people who clearly are not.
You know fit -- you know live out and among everybody in society and help we can continue this conversation as we watch this legislation go forward doctor -- tablet because it's so important.
And thank you very much for being with us this morning -- -- him -- Martha thank you so all right take care.
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