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Outing right now you you have this fascinating idea that we need what you call a -- -- little role for celebrities do expletive me.
Well what I mean by that is obviously I went celebrities go an indication in in what are -- in large prisons for the citizens of of this country's.
-- when we come back to should meet with nothing but contempt.
Back Cuba -- in large island prison that's North Korea as a prison.
And that we -- celebrities go there.
Not really giving the people who live there if anything they're only giving comfort to.
Those would permit them so when they come back we should meet -- with contempt.
Art is so would've but that content that contempt should be expressed -- all or dealt within -- way.
Well I think that -- our -- for a boycott Ari thank -- and we've we should.
-- the media especially when beyoncé for example is the beyoncé and daisy when they go to Cuba the media should -- should.
Cover this as beyoncé and -- CI traveling in a prison.
In an island prison that people who are there.
Have no for no rights that do not have access to the restaurants the beaches or or the places that beyoncé and and -- have access to.
And they have no access to the rights the same rights that they take for granted that we take for granted and our country Cubans have no access to those so that said the media should cover it.
That said might that the the -- -- -- -- Clearly he did absolutely nothing more diplomatic relations it wasn't designed to it was a Boskin bowl trip.
But that Jay-Z and beyoncé going to Cuba may be.
Maybe this is they can bring a battle of cool -- Inside a little rapprochement may -- is there any situation in which having somebody -- not directly a political figure but is some sort of an international figure actually helps or is it -- ways.
A problem here.
No not at all it has not added to any understanding of this up for the suffering of the Cuban people.
Cubans have had no election since 1959.
We have had the majority of the Cubans by the way our Africa you -- -- mixed race they have not had a single.
Mixed race or Afro -- leader since Nazi photos of -- -- of the last dictator before Castro.
Imagine that imagine if we were ruled still by Eisenhower in this country.
Did did this said by beyoncé and and -- brought no understanding of that.
All right they would say eight.
That there educating themselves.
They were clearly very popular that lifting the spirits all of the Cuban people who were able to see them and get close to them.
I guess your argument would be is all that they're doing is lifting the spirits.
All of the of the Cuban regime and they're giving them some sort of credibility.
Think that's exactly right in -- dissident was allowed to get anywhere near them.
Cuban dissidents of which there are many very many suffered greatly they're either assassinated.
Or they've beaten -- the streets and -- thrown into prison for life.
These people were not allowed to get close to beyoncé or daisy -- tell them what they're suffering.
That divested by beyoncé and Jay-Z brought no greater understanding of the suffering of Cubans whatsoever.
Mark up so did.
Just ban them from going to these places would that mean that would that be sensible does that because not much better and the nations were talking -- -- again.
Well actually we already have a ban on -- -- in Cuba because it is such a repressive state.
But I -- even talking about that I think if you going to go to Cuba it is almost -- moral responsibility.
For you to bring up the plight of the people.
In whose country you are you really need to to talk about this you can't vacation in Burma.
In not talk about the fact that Arafat Suu Kyi was kept in whom it in in in in domestic prison.
Four for so many years you cannot talk about the fact that these people.
Are not do not have any rights or freedoms to speak to gather to doing the things we enjoy in this country.
So so if if -- -- beyoncé had come back from Cuba and said hey here's the here's a nation with a lot of problems -- not running that country right the people.
All free this is what they need they need help and it Dennis Rodman and come back from.
North Korea saying -- the younger is monstrous dictate.
His people are suffering while he lives the -- life then that you would be half.
We would those visits all happier.
Well -- I guess I would be they haven't said that I understand that that -- released a song in which he did not talk at all about the plight of the Cuban people.
This is the important thing all the attention.
We should focus on the Cuban people the fact that for fifty years -- have had no freedoms and they're spending their time in prison every time they open them out.
And express what it.
You know the thoughts.
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