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Yeah fifty years left to try to demonize Republicans when it comes to tackling the tough issue of immigration reform but tonight.
There is evidence that the liberal rhetoric may be backfiring on the Democrats are very -- Frank Luntz.
With the help of a bipartisan focus group dialed remarks from politicians on both sides of the -- about this very issue joining me now.
Author of the New York Times best seller win.
The man himself Frankel -- sorry -- -- fun challenge this -- so we got the gang of eight and now it's gonna be rubio Sunday and it Marco Rubio is going to be a most of the Sunday talk shows this weekend.
But you took -- senator Durbin and senator Rand Paul let's start with Dick Durbin senator up for us -- a bipartisan focus group tell us what happened.
Where did this in California we wanted to do a border state that understands -- immigration challenges firsthand.
And what the American people told us is that if it benefits the American economy that's good.
-- is just about the illegal immigrants themselves and their plight.
That's not what we want immigration policies be based on Dick turbines response his pitch.
Fell on deaf ears not just among Republicans but among Democrats as well let's take a look.
Go to any restaurant in Chicago Illinois.
And take a look at who just picked up the plates at the table.
And when the door to the kitchen swings open take a look at who's washing the dishes and cooking the food.
And who unloaded the food on the dock.
And the people who were cleaning your rooms at the hotels.
And the folks who were watching your mother and grandmother at the nursing home.
And you're going to see the face of immigration and many times the face of undocumented people.
Working hard every single day only asking for a chance.
To rid themselves the fear.
That a knock on the door will mean that their family will be broken up.
Frank I have never in all the years we've done this -- -- true.
Ever and even democratic the most horrific why why did this -- some -- poorly.
Because -- sympathy is not for those who came here illegally the sympathies for those who come here legally.
Make no mistake Americans are pro immigration.
And they want it on the right way.
And they will support immigration reform provided three points in this league system Rand Paul saying what -- I don't know what we can sort of get that but I -- -- -- -- slow insulting -- away.
I was a cook I was a dishwasher I was a bus boy and I bought the food for restaurant that I worked in.
You know as I was growing up.
I mean and those I'm glad I have those jobs.
They were good jobs from.
-- let's go to ripped off.
Okay and -- why he does well is he sets up the predicated fact -- of all the immigration language we've tested.
Rand Paul's statement about what -- has to be done first second or third nothing test better than this one let's take a look.
What conservatives have always ask for and when -- continue to ask for is that we have to have a secure border.
You can't have open borders and a welfare state so we're going to normalize the people here which I'm not opposed to doing that.
If you normalize the people here bring them out of the shadows get them working -- have been paying taxes.
There's some good to that.
But you can't do it if you have a wide open border and you normalize twelve million and then twelve million more come you have to have control your border.
It's -- only vote for this proposal if we have annual reports that have to be approved by congress.
Is that it is often as you talk about securing the border that.
There's no point -- other -- we have another amnesty debate in 51015 years.
And yet he also talks about normalizing -- -- in essence legalizing.
This segment of population.
The public supports legalization if you do two things first one -- secure the border.
And second is enforcement they want to know that Washington is going to enforce the laws going forward if those two things happen.
They support the DREAM Act otherwise known as the earned citizenship act and they do support legalization.
Only if you get the border under control.
That's going to be interesting what is we're gonna watch this put on display this week and as Marco Rubio and the gang of eight go out on the Sunday shows and and will be talking about the specific legislation next week Frank Luntz the Pacific surveillance.
-- thank you.
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